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**assohillA** · 03-11-2009, 11:36 PM

Who's engines are generally considered to be the best?

It would seem clear that the performance of the Torro Rosso over the Red Bull last year showed us that the Ferrari unit is better than Renaults. But BrawnGP took Mercedes over Ferrari..(or was this due more to the engine fitting the chassis better?)

I also heard somewhere that the Mercedes engine had over 60bhp more than the Honda from last year. This was surprising as a few years ago everyone was raving about how powerful the Honda and the BMW engines were.

Anyone?

**VoriEremiagem** · 03-11-2009, 11:44 PM

Bugatti/Volkswagen Veyron V16

**assohillA** · 03-11-2009, 11:47 PM

**AlabamaBoyz** · 03-11-2009, 11:50 PM

I think the Ferrari and BMW units are pretty much on top with the rest a fraction behind.

**Broorbbub** · 03-12-2009, 09:12 AM

Toyota?

**masteryxisman** · 03-12-2009, 11:24 AM

It is not a facepalm, he can see females in between of his finger.

**tomspoumn** · 03-12-2009, 03:52 PM

It is not a facepalm, he can see females in between of his finger.

**aLZ9zKsO** · 03-12-2009, 04:00 PM

Bugatti/Volkswagen Veyron V16

It's a W16, jeez Taz!

**ChyFDjfed** · 03-12-2009, 10:34 PM

Arguably Renault and Honda had dropped behind others a bit last year (due to taking the freezing rules too strictly unlike others), but since Renault has been allowed to improve its engine for this year a bit and Honda is out of F1, I guess there is almost nothing to choose between the engines power-wise, so everyone has the best engine.

Another question is reliability, but the level of it is nowadays very high too.

**xanonlinexan** · 03-13-2009, 12:30 AM

The Mercedes, the one in Button"s car so he can have a good shot at the championship. Don't fall off your chairs you lot, a girl can dream.

i agree, i take it that the mclearn has the same engine

**STYWOMBORGOSY** · 03-13-2009, 12:37 AM

I'd say the Ferrari and Mercedes are the class of the field with the rest right behind, with the possible exception of the Renault which has been modified and we'll have to wait and see how much improvment has been made. Overall though, I dont think there's a lot of difference performance wise between the engines.

**Peapeuddedbaw** · 03-13-2009, 07:49 AM

All engines being fairly similar probably isn't far off. So let's look at it from that scale. We have Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Toyota and Renault power plants.

Mercedes seems to be very strong with massive improvements from RBGP and FI no doubt partly due to the power train. Then TR crushed STR last year. Renault have had a chance for parity but still are unproven.

I believe the lineup goes:

Ferrari/Mercedes
BMW
Toyota
Renault

with a very small gap between steps. KERS will be the big 'upsetter' this season.

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assohillA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	Who has the best engine? Who's engines are generally considered to be the best? It would seem clear that the performance of the Torro Rosso over the Red Bull last year showed us that the Ferrari unit is better than Renaults. But BrawnGP took Mercedes over Ferrari..(or was this due more to the engine fitting the chassis better?) I also heard somewhere that the Mercedes engine had over 60bhp more than the Honda from last year. This was surprising as a few years ago everyone was raving about how powerful the Honda and the BMW engines were. Anyone? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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ChyFDjfed Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 466 Senior Member	Arguably Renault and Honda had dropped behind others a bit last year (due to taking the freezing rules too strictly unlike others), but since Renault has been allowed to improve its engine for this year a bit and Honda is out of F1, I guess there is almost nothing to choose between the engines power-wise, so everyone has the best engine. Another question is reliability, but the level of it is nowadays very high too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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xanonlinexan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 623 Senior Member	The Mercedes, the one in Button"s car so he can have a good shot at the championship. Don't fall off your chairs you lot, a girl can dream. i agree, i take it that the mclearn has the same engine Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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STYWOMBORGOSY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	I'd say the Ferrari and Mercedes are the class of the field with the rest right behind, with the possible exception of the Renault which has been modified and we'll have to wait and see how much improvment has been made. Overall though, I dont think there's a lot of difference performance wise between the engines. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-13-2009, 07:49 AM	#12
Peapeuddedbaw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	All engines being fairly similar probably isn't far off. So let's look at it from that scale. We have Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Toyota and Renault power plants. Mercedes seems to be very strong with massive improvements from RBGP and FI no doubt partly due to the power train. Then TR crushed STR last year. Renault have had a chance for parity but still are unproven. I believe the lineup goes: Ferrari/Mercedes BMW Toyota Renault with a very small gap between steps. KERS will be the big 'upsetter' this season. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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