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Old 03-04-2009, 08:40 PM   #21
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I think that every world champion deserves respect. I think that Mansell just wants to keep the journalists busy.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:07 PM   #22
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Storm in a Tea Cup?
Take with a pinch of salt?
In one ear and out the other?

Yep, that's what I'll do with this story. It's a bit of a non-event really.

I guess it consists of 50% actual comments, 50% journalistic spin and 50% BS.

(For those who noticed this is actually 140% then congratulations for being a Sun reader).
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:12 PM   #23
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I see ole Nige hasn't lost his touch. Stupid utterances like that were de riguer back in the day.

I'm inclined to think of Brits as thinkers, so Mansell gets to be the exception that proves the rule.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:13 PM   #24
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I guess it consists of 50% actual comments, 50% journalistic spin and 50% BS.

(For those who noticed this is actually 140% then congratulations for being a Sun reader).
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:20 PM   #25
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The Lewy fans never fail to behave like expected, childish!

Mansell has the right to express his opinion, like it or not!
I don't think any of them have said he isn't allowed to express an opinion.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:26 PM   #26
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I don't think any of them have said he isn't allowed to express an opinion.
It's probably best to ignore childish comments and let the Mods deal with the trolls
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:12 PM   #27
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Mansell has the right to express his opinion, like it or not!
He does and people have the right to make fun of him, if he comes up with such nonsense.
For a man who was beaten by most of his teammates, he sure does have a big mouth.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:30 AM   #28
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I saw this from Nigel Mansell and I just had to laugh. Yes, Nigel was a deserving champion, though to be quite frank he would have been a more deserving champion in '86 or '87 than in 1992 when he had what was a massively superior car, at a lot of tracks it was 2 seconds + quicker than anything else out there, add that to a team mate that was a dependable number 2 rather than any serious competition and it would have been damning if he hadnt had won the championship in '92. His justification of "beating 25 other cars" as opposed to the grids of 20 we have today is complete nonsense, if competition was judged on the number of competitors then NASCAR would be seen as the best series in the world, and whilst NASCAR is very entertaining and very popular in the states it doesnt have anywhere close to the international appeal of F1. Also if you look at the quality of the grids back in the early 90s a large portion of the grid were decidedly uncompetitive, particularly in '92 when you had a Brabham, Venturi and Scuderia Italia all on thier last legs and well past the point of being competitive and Andrea Moda, who were amongst the most inept teams in F1 history. I think winning a championship in today's ultracompetitive environment is as valid as ever before.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:39 AM   #29
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The Lewy fans never fail to behave like expected, childish!

Mansell has the right to express his opinion, like it or not!
And everyone who disagrees with it has the right to express the opinion that he's talking rubbish, too.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:53 AM   #30
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There are some drivers, such as Hill, Hamilton and even Mansell himself, who forever attract comments along the lines of "he only won because he had the best car and no competition that year".

A viewpoint which completely disregards the effort required to get into that top team in the first place, and a team mate with equal equipment.

If, on the other hand, Nige means that in 2008 Alonso and the Ferrari's weren't worthy competition, I'd up his medication.
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:15 AM   #31
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Having read the quote, particularly the part about his title being 20% more credible, I'd surmise that Mansell had his tongue firmly in his cheek.
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:13 AM   #32
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Well Nigel was always described as a very balanced person.

With a chip on both shoulders...
LOL, that is precisely what is at play here. Mansell always had an inferiority complex, partly based on paranoia and partly out of legitimate concerns, but it always affected him, so much so that he left F1 right after winning the championship because he didn't want to drive next to senna. I far that as LH grows in stature as a British F1 great, Mansell feels that his achievements might be overshadowed. This is just his way of lashing back. He should be enough of a man to be comfortable with his own achievements and not be taking swipes at fellow champs.
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:17 AM   #33
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The Lewy fans never fail to behave like expected, childish!

Mansell has the right to express his opinion, like it or not!
Ah, Ioan ever the diplomat. Ready to start brush fires then claiming he never lit the match.
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Old 03-05-2009, 03:50 AM   #34
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"When I won the title, I beat 25 other cars. That makes Lewis' title 20 percent less credible than mine," One of the best logics I have ever seen in opinions about F1!
Good to have some fun.

As for Mansell's career itself. I feel his "spectacular style" has a bit flattered the opinions of many F1 fans in retrospect (well, it's actually quite usual that 'exciting' drivers are a bit overrated compared to more 'calculating' ones). His record against team-mates doesn't make him look as impressive as he has stayed in people's memories.
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Old 03-05-2009, 05:22 AM   #35
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One of the best logics I have ever seen in opinions about F1!
Good to have some fun.

As for Mansell's career itself. I feel his "spectacular style" has a bit flattered the opinions of many F1 fans in retrospect (well, it's actually quite usual that 'exciting' drivers are a bit overrated compared to more 'calculating' ones). His record against team-mates doesn't make him look as impressive as he has stayed in people's memories.
Prost destroyed him in '90, but because of Mansell's "spectacular style," as you noted, Nigel is practically Ferrari royalty (with one win for the Prancing Horse), while Prost got canned a year later for rubbishing the car.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:56 PM   #36
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This is a different thread...old brits vs. young brits! This is better than the McLaren vs. Ferrari threads!
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:22 PM   #37
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WHAT IS YOUR POINT ?
the way i see it he is having a go at the number of cars
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:55 PM   #38
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Well Nigel was always described as a very balanced person.

With a chip on both shoulders...
And perhaps because of those chips he feels his championship is somewhat undervalued because of the strength of the Williams in comparison with the opposition. That may explain his comments, although his main point is about the reducing number of cars on the grid IMHO.
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Old 03-05-2009, 03:02 PM   #39
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http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...04101542.shtml

NM's results speak for themselves
Why does he have to start talking sh!t
Yes NM beat AS, and MS!
LH Beat KR, and FA as well as FM

Even if you agree,
You would never catch Mike, Kimi or Fred making these types of remarks IMHO
What the hell is his motive
Common, give the guy a break - he's going through menopause.
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Old 03-05-2009, 05:46 PM   #40
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Having read the quote, particularly the part about his title being 20% more credible, I'd surmise that Mansell had his tongue firmly in his cheek.
Come to think of it, that could very well be.
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