[Nypbscao]

Now Ferrari are struggling with their KERS system can we expect the FIA to annouce a delay in its introduction?

[VZF74G0M]

Now Ferrari are struggling with their KERS system can we expect the FIA to annouce a delay in its introduction?

IF Ferrari are struggleing then I imagine that the FIA will accomodate as Ferrari are the most important team in F1.

Whether they are or if this is brinkmanship will be answered at the first race.

[Nypbscao]

Everyone will be running to the same rules so why change it? They have had plenty of time to get organised.

I think we can look forward to some unusual podiums in the first few races next year, and the whole point of F1 is for these things to develop.

[rfceicizgm]

McLaren and Ferrari fighting for the 4th place... maaaan! wouldn't that be great? if kers can do that I'll put it on my computer too.

[bataovady]

McLaren and Ferrari fighting for the 4th place... maaaan! wouldn't that be great? if kers can do that I'll put it on my computer too.

I don't think so. Whatever the rule changes have been, usually we haven't witnessed unusual teams at the top.

[Stoottnoiciek]

I don't think so. Whatever the rule changes have been, usually we haven't witnessed unusual teams at the top.

This isn't a normal rulechange though. This is something totally different and I think there is definitely the chance of seeing one team who is not usually near the top make a good job of this.

[Nypbscao]

Watch this space and what the FIA does.....

I hope we do see some unusual grids next year but most of all unusual podiums.

[lierro]

Now Ferrari are struggling with their KERS system can we expect the FIA to annouce a delay in its introduction?

IF Ferrari are struggleing then I imagine that the FIA will accomodate as Ferrari are the most important team in F1.

[Stoottnoiciek]

It's like a dot to dot picture without the dots

[lierro]

It's like a dot to dot picture without the dots

[Stoottnoiciek]

You know what gets me Ioan? If the teams really believe that the FIA is biased towards Ferrari they're more than welcome to go out and form their own competition......

But then what would the teams use if there was no Ferrari bias to blame for their poor performances?

[VZF74G0M]

You know what gets me Ioan? If the teams really believe that the FIA is biased towards Ferrari they're more than welcome to go out and form their own competition......

But then what would the teams use if there was no Ferrari bias to blame for their poor performances?

Performance doesn't seem to be the problem as he gets over the line first. It's just what happens in the courts that they struggle with

[Stoottnoiciek]

Performance doesn't seem to be the problem as he gets over the line first. It's just what happens in the courts that they struggle with

Like I said if there was the bias that people keep claiming then the teams would and should go off and form their own competition.

[lierro]

Exactly! Who would continue to spend half a billion every year knowing that the FIA will anyway pick another team to win the championship?

[wmirkru]

Like I said if there was the bias that people keep claiming then the teams would and should go off and form their own competition.

It would be a hollow victory to win this new series. Whatever else anybody may think of Ferrari they've been the benchmark for the last decade. Max and Bernie are right when they say that F1 needs Ferrari more than Ferrari need F1.

[Stoottnoiciek]

Exactly! Who would continue to spend half a billion every year knowing that the FIA will anyway pick another team to win the championship?

Well if you don't win at least your fans can blame the FIA

[Stoottnoiciek]

It would be a hollow victory to win this new series. Whatever else anybody may think of Ferrari they've been the benchmark for the last decade. Max and Bernie are right when they say that F1 needs Ferrari more than Ferrari need F1.

Perhaps true but if you can't win in F1 because there is bias then why try when the FIA will supposedly do anything to stop you winning?

[wmirkru]

Just to drag up an old thread, it seems that Ferrari are still struggling with KERS:

Ferrari's technical director Aldo Costa says the Italian squad are still behind schedule with the development of their Kinetic Energy Recovery System.

KERS will be introduced in F1 at the start of 2009, but the development has been hard for many teams, who had no previous experience of the technology.

Costa admitted he would have preferred to have tested the system on track already, like some of their rivals have done. Source & full story: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71385

[irrascaft]

I'm looking forward to it, and would like to see it shake up the order at least slightly, I just think they could have freed up the regs a bit more rather than specifying a maximum amount of energy that can be regenerated.

And whats the betting that in 5-10 years time Max and/or Bernie (and yes, they still will be around then) will be creaming their pants for a common KERS system for all the teams...

[EnvellFen]

Biggest change since 1998 and on that occasion McLaren came out of the doldrums to comfortably be the quickest team. Ferrari caught them up over the course of the season, but previous winners Williams and Benetton were never the same again.

A similar change could occur in 2009, with somebody like Toyota or Red Bull getting a leap on the rest, and teams like McLaren and Ferrari could be caught playing catch up.