[uncoodync]

Oh I am so surprised I did not expect this to happen at all

/sarcasm

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44640

Bye Bye British GP. Thanks Donington.

[VZF74G0M]

Since the move to Donington was announced, the circuit management have been in conflict and turmoil. This was expected and predicted.

[NerbuitW]

Surprise , surprise!!!

Really, can't people/circuits, etc think of the 'bigger picture' - instead of point scoring against each other. I'm not really bothered who has the British GP, just as long as there is one. This does nobody any good.

[quorceopporce]

And we shouldn't blame the council either. It has to go through its proper processes.

[EntectCelpelm]

Since the move to Donington was announced, the circuit management have been in conflict and turmoil.

I specifically remember the management saying they had strong links with the local authorities and confident it will pass through the council quickly.

But then they would say that wouldn't they.

To those giggling with glee: would you rather have no British GP at all than one at Donnington?

[VZF74G0M]

I specifically remember the management saying they had strong links with the local authorities and confident it will pass through the council quickly.

But then they would say that wouldn't they.

To those giggling with glee: would you rather have no British GP at all than one at Donnington?

Wedge

I was going to compile a brief Essay but in researching it came across this piece.

http://www.britsonpole.com/opinion-c...ngton-post2250

Whoever ljh is, he's pretty spot on with his summery of the situation.

Personally, I would love to see Donington host the GP but without professional help, I fear this is too much a step up for the management team.

[quorceopporce]

I specifically remember the management saying they had strong links with the local authorities and confident it will pass through the council quickly.

But then they would say that wouldn't they.

Very good point. Yet more bland corporate bo11ocks coming back to bite somebody on the ar5e.

[EntectCelpelm]

I for one don't blame Donington one bit. They're just picking up the pieces from a pile of mess created by Bernie.

[quorceopporce]

I for one don't blame Donington one bit. They're just picking up the pieces from a pile of mess created by Bernie.

While that may be true (undoubtedly is?), Donington's bosses/owners shouldn't have made such ambitious claims about their ability to stage the race in 2010.

[bribiaLaubysdggf]

OK, hang on. Even if this is delayed until January, that gives them 14 months to sort the track out. There isn't too much to do to get to a basic level to host the GP - the track is mostly in place, as are the run off areas, viewing areas etc.

The park and ride scheme they've thought up will mean the roads don't need any urgent upgrades, so I'm still fairly confident that they'll have it done on time. And in the worst case scenario, we miss the GP for one year and get it back in 2011.. so let's just see what happens! Besides, by this time next year Bernie might be so desperate for cash that he'll let Silverstone have the race for another year

[wmirkru]

I don't want to say "I told you so", but....

[casinoboneerer]

I remember last year when Silverstone was dropped, someone said that moving to Donington was only to make UK lose the grand prix....

[mosypeSom]

Oh I am so surprised I did not expect this to happen at all

/sarcasm

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44640

Bye Bye British GP. Thanks Donington.

Didn't everyone - fans and journos predict this when it was announced? I hope no is surprised by this....

[quorceopporce]

In all this, don't forget who the real villain is.

Step forward Sir Jackie Stewart, under whose stewardship the future fate of the British GP was sealed.

Don't forget that there are two sides to every argument. He and Bernie rubbed each other up the wrong way, there's no doubt about that, but I don't think one is at fault any more than the other. And this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person, no matter how neatly doing so fits into your pre-ordained views on other matters.

[EntectCelpelm]

Step forward Sir Jackie Stewart, under whose stewardship the future fate of the British GP was sealed.

Not entirely.

JYS has talked many a time about modernising Silverstone, turning it into the centre of British motorsport etc, but was held back by the old guard within the BRDC who were against change.

Don't forget that there are two sides to every argument. He and Bernie rubbed each other up the wrong way, there's no doubt about that, but I don't think one is at fault any more than the other. And this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person, no matter how neatly doing so fits into your pre-ordained views on other matters.

Agreed. There is no doubt more to it than what is already exposed currently. It seems its a personal issue only privy between the BRDC and Bernie without public scrutiny.

Anyway, we shouldn't be typical cynical Brits and pointing fingers. I for one hate to imagine Bernie enjoying these shenanigans. The British GP is in the last chance saloon and we should be getting behind it and keep our fingers crossed.

[quorceopporce]

The British GP is in the last chance saloon and we should be getting behind it and keep our fingers crossed.

I hate to say it, but 'getting behind it' isn't going to do any good. After all, everybody — including Bernie, he says — was behind the Canadian GP but this backing hasn't exactly helped it survive.

[Immampdah]

How much would the changes at Donington cost?
Did they secure the money they need? If yes than it's OK.
If not than bad luck, cause now wil be much more difficult to get a loan in fair conditions.
In the end everything is about money, not about people.

[quorceopporce]

Funny though how I was, and remain, the only person to point out that was another option for 'villain of the piece'.

It obviously did not fit into others pre-ordained views of the situation, so perhaps you should condescend them equally?

Failing to do so, failing to be equal, somewhat undermines those liberal and fair credentials you like to promote. Shocking, but then it probably doesn't fit into your pre-ordained view to have done so either.

Re-read the bit of my post where I say 'this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person'. This is my 'pre-ordained' view on the subject, and I believe it to be the right one, unlike merely saying 'blame Bernie' or 'blame JYS'.

And were you really 'shocked' by my opinion, or is that just another bit of overblown rhetoric?

[quorceopporce]

As an avid and fanatical reader of the Daily Mail*, I'm 'shocked' by just about everything.

Whilst I am aware that you personally attribute blame, or at least fault, to a wide spectrum of individuals, there are others within this thread who are targeting either the Donnington management or Mr Ecclestone, and no mention of Mr Stewart.

Fair enough.

[EntectCelpelm]

As an avid and fanatical reader of the Daily Mail*, I'm 'shocked' by just about everything.

Whilst I am aware that you personally attribute blame, or at least fault, to a wide spectrum of individuals, there are others within this thread who are targeting either the Donnington management or Mr Ecclestone, and no mention of Mr Stewart.

IMHO you are a tad unfair to attack JYS and point finger of blame solely at him. Whoever chairs the BRDC and negotiates with Bernie represents the interests of the BRDC. I think it would be fair to criticise the BRDC as an institution which looks after its own vested interests.