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Old 07-29-2012, 08:36 PM   #1
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Default donKey of the race
Hey, the race does not even get started and we already have a prime candidate for donKey of the race.....MS and team; stalled out, then speeding in the pits......and now likely to be the first car lapped by hamilton
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:47 PM   #2
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second candidate-whoever messed up and gave Alonso's tires to hamilton....
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #3
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Pastor for being involved in an incident again... Thats pretty much every bloody race...

Time to get off the track,
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:52 PM   #4
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Pastor for being involved in an incident again... Thats pretty much every bloody race...

Time to get off the track,
I counted about 3 decent on-track passes and that was one of them.

That penalty was pretty harsh.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:56 PM   #5
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Kamui for getting his @ss beat by HK in the Cateram
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:59 PM   #6
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The stewards - I am pretty sure Maldonado was penalised because of his reputation rather than the merits of the pass in question.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:59 PM   #7
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Maldonado for yet another bone-headed collision. Honourable mention to Schumacher for getting confused at the start then speeding in the pitlane, and Lotus for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory by not pitting Kimi sooner - he could have got ahead of Lewis and won that.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:00 PM   #8
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It wasn't harsh. Paul left racing room and Pastor yet again just punts another driver off. This is getting bloody silly.

MS had a brain fart and made a fool of himself but what with him falling asleep and crashing at Hockenheim, it's not surprising.

So, as with my Driver of the day, I have to give them the acolade equally.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:01 PM   #9
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Placido Domingo as the interviewer. I mean really, who thinks of such crap? The man is a great great opera singer, but people should stick to doing things they are actually good at.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:12 PM   #10
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No huge donkeys today... Maybe Button for his 4th to 7th effort, 30sec off Hamilton.
Maldonado for taking Paul di Resta off track again. Oh yeah agree with Doc about Kobayashi, finishing behind a Caterham! I'm not sure he's the 5th best driver around...
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:14 PM   #11
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The stewards - I am pretty sure Maldonado was penalised because of his reputation rather than the merits of the pass in question.
At this moment in time I agree but need to watch it again.

Nothing wrong with a bit of wheel banging nor with oversteer exiting a corner.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:14 PM   #12
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maldonado

Button strategy - how you go from 3rd to 6th is beyond me
making moves that were not required. a two stopper would have gotten him no the podium
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:26 PM   #13
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No clear donkey for me. Pastor comes to mind for punting again....I would also say RoGro for not being able to deliver again when it counts.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:29 PM   #14
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Donkies:

Schumi - Well don't need to go into it really. Fell asleep at the start, then speeding in the pitlane.

Mclaren Strategy boys - Don't know why people are blaming Jenson. He was 3rd and fending off Vettel and looking like a podium when the team told him they would have to go to Plan B which ruined his race. As it turned out Red Bull did the same. Hamilton was going to, but they saw what had happened to Jenson and they thought better of it.

Stewards - I have said on record before that I think the level of steward interference is too high. In Monaco yes Maldonado was right to be penalized for his move on Sergio. In Valencia I think it was the right call because he came from off track into Lewis.
At Silverstone I think he made the same mistake as here was a tad too hot and just lost the back end. Here I think the penalty was harsh because both cars continued with any damage or real inconvience and hard racing is disappearing. The difference at Silverstone was he completely ruined Sergio's race and thus a further punishment could be deemed nessacery. However today I thought it was a bit harsh.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:31 PM   #15
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Actually, add bieber to the list for bitching over team radio "Do something guys."
What a crybaby.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:42 PM   #16
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Stewards - I have said on record before that I think the level of steward interference is too high. In Monaco yes Maldonado was right to be penalized for his move on Sergio. In Valencia I think it was the right call because he came from off track into Lewis.
At Silverstone I think he made the same mistake as here was a tad too hot and just lost the back end. Here I think the penalty was harsh because both cars continued with any damage or real inconvience and hard racing is disappearing. The difference at Silverstone was he completely ruined Sergio's race and thus a further punishment could be deemed nessacery. However today I thought it was a bit harsh.
when you lookat the replays, it was clear that maldonado deliberately steered his car into hulkenberg to intentionally shove him off the track, even worse, in doing so he made contact. the onboards are very telling.
A similar argument could be made for kimi's move on Grosjean however, but the difference is that kimi didn't necessarily steer into grosjean and they were side by side and grosjea nhad the opportunity to concede

In Hulkenberg's case, he was on the racing line and ahead when Maldonado came charging in ( fair enough) but then knowing that he wasn't going to make the pass, decided to steer into nicoH.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:45 PM   #17
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Actually, add bieber to the list for bitching over team radio "Do something guys."
What a crybaby.
LOL for once we agree

its is almost the opposite of Button/Mclaren
RBR and Rocky even tried to tell him that they are racing the cars behind as well
I'm not exactly sure what he expected the team to do, he more than his team could affect the outcome of that situation
so in pushing his team, they then decided to 3 stop the guy, which I doubt was not their intention.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:12 PM   #18
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As mentioned the Schu ,and Pastor.Thought Button was lack-lustre today as well !
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:16 PM   #19
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But Vettel did beat Button. Whining or not, he did a good job IMO, after the mistake on the start.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:35 PM   #20
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Schumi for pressing the wrong button at the start and once again Maldonado for once again driving into someone
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