[Chiquita]

Last day Jenson was beating Lewis with his own veapons in every aspect.

The walls are very close to the track in Singapore!

[PharmACT]

I'm sure Mia is a secret agent using this forum to communicate to her devious network of spy's in Code


"Lewis, the time runs vertical in July

Potatoes never take the air when cold"

[jadabaad]

My impression hasn't changed.

In a good car Button can be great but the difference is that in a bad car Button will trail Hamilton.

This year's McLaren is a damn good car but handicapped by not being aero efficient and that is partly down to the rear wing set up and DRS. A large rear wing will give you more DF and more drag but it won't shed it better than a smaller wing via DRS and hence the prominent vapour trails AKA vortices.

TBH I was surprised by McLaren's aero package for Monza. No wonder he had massive confidence to go round Schumi on the outside of Ascari.

[Vokbeelllicky]

Yeah, there are plenty of if's and but's on both sides.

Fully agree, on one side mechanical failures on the other side brain failures.

[Izzy]

I said some time back that Lewis is the one you'd pay to watch, but Jenson is the one you'd pay to drive for you.

I compared them to a latter-day Senna and Prost: one is spectacular and blindlingly quick, a megastar on and off the track, but prone to mistakes and lapses of judgement. The other sometimes fails to even register on the radar until you look at the timing screens and realise that he's quietly been getting on with the job and bringing home the trophies.

For a team like McLaren they balance each other out perfectly.

Yep Agree Dave

[StitlyDute]

I'm sure Mia is a secret agent using this forum to communicate to her devious network of spy's in Code


"Lewis, the time runs vertical in July

Potatoes never take the air when cold"

The bycicle is shining on my knee several rotations per banana sprocket....

[jadabaad]

I said some time back that Lewis is the one you'd pay to watch, but Jenson is the one you'd pay to drive for you.

I compared them to a latter-day Senna and Prost: one is spectacular and blindlingly quick, a megastar on and off the track, but prone to mistakes and lapses of judgement. The other sometimes fails to even register on the radar until you look at the timing screens and realise that he's quietly been getting on with the job and bringing home the trophies.

For a team like McLaren they balance each other out perfectly.

Button reminds me more of Mansell. Not an all time great IMHO but one of those in those drivers in the shadows of greatness lacking an extra ingredient. As I said, in the right car Button is sublime but like Mansell moaning about understeer, Button moans about not getting tyre temperature when the likes of Barrichello and Hamilton were/are having no such problem.

If a car needs serious development work Button would guarantee you points but a Hamilton would give the team a huge morale boost.

[Ervins Dervish]

I do have to admit that having been a Button fan since his test shoot out for the Williams seat I do feel quite smug now

Read so much crap about him over the years, but just knew that given the right car he is pretty much as good as anyone. This of course is his down fall and it can be pretty frustrating to hear him moan about the balance AGAIN, but wins like at Canada soon make up for that!

I do remember being at Spa in 2007 when some Germans in full Micheal Schumacher gear told me that "Jenson Button is going to the cats!" How I laughed!

[deermealec]

fizzicist is probably too busy looking after his 2 year old son just now .

So when he comes back, after a year (or more) away from the forum, all that repressed Jensen-love will flow out and destroy us all???

[jadabaad]

I do have to admit that having been a Button fan since his test shoot out for the Williams seat I do feel quite smug now

Read so much crap about him over the years, but just knew that given the right car he is pretty much as good as anyone. This of course is his down fall and it can be pretty frustrating to hear him moan about the balance AGAIN, but wins like at Canada soon make up for that!

I do remember being at Spa in 2007 when some Germans in full Micheal Schumacher gear told me that "Jenson Button is going to the cats!" How I laughed!

To some extent there are truth to those criticisms. Button can fustrate me whereas Mansell makes up for it with his overtakes - best example being Mexico 1989/90 where Prost came from nowhere to win, Mansell falls asleep and regains second from Berger.

Then again its hard to choose between a solid drive and recovering from a donkey moment and the two probably balance each other out results wise

[PharmACT]

I do have to admit that having been a Button fan since his test shoot out for the Williams seat I do feel quite smug now

Yep, I remember you were one on the faithful in the face of all the detractors.

Nice feeling isn't it.

Best team in the world with the best pairing (although I do still rate Lewis as the better driver). When McLaren get the car, we will be unstoppable

[Chiquita]

Yep, I remember you were one on the faithful in the face of all the detractors.

Nice feeling isn't it.

Best team in the world with the best pairing (although I do still rate Lewis as the better driver). When McLaren get the car, we will be unstoppable

They will need an uber car, and even so I´m not so sure Jenson can do it.

[rassedgesse]

They will need an uber car, and even so I´m not so sure Jenson can do it.

I think the title is already sewn up this season and most teams will be looking towards 2012 now. I doubt Mclaren and Ferrari will be releasing any major updates in the last few races if they have any sense.

[Chiquita]

I think the title is already sewn up this season and most teams will be looking towards 2012 now. I doubt Mclaren and Ferrari will be releasing any major updates in the last few races if they have any sense.

You say so, then my statement will be valid to next year to, if you get the drift.

[Enrivaanonock]

I'm sure Mia is a secret agent using this forum to communicate to her devious network of spy's in Code


"Lewis, the time runs vertical in July

Potatoes never take the air when cold"

The red bean farts quietly in the September breeze *taps nose thusly and winks at KNockie*

[PharmACT]

Daniel winking at me

[StitlyDute]

Daniel winking at me

Getcha coat.........

[PlayboyAtWork]

I've always had a soft spot for Jenson ever since his debut at BMW.Williams... he made some poor choices in the past but has matured well and is reaping the benifit of that maturity.

Lewis is a different kind of driver, I have always felt he get his kick not by winning races but by beating everyone else and he is more effected by seeing Vettel rack up more wins/championships than him... Jenson just wants to race and win races... it is still fun for him....

I think Jenson can surpass Lewis at McLaren, Lewis if not careful will self destruct and jump ship.

[Ervins Dervish]

Yep, I remember you were one on the faithful in the face of all the detractors.

Nice feeling isn't it.

Best team in the world with the best pairing (although I do still rate Lewis as the better driver). When McLaren get the car, we will be unstoppable

Its a great feeling, infact I think it makes the wins and the 2009 Championship even more sweeter

[PharmACT]

Its a great feeling, infact I think it makes the wins and the 2009 Championship even more sweeter

And then they still say it was a fluke

I will have to search back to "The Most Overated Driver of all Time" thread. I think that was the one

To coin one of my old ones...... Egg and Faces