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Old 05-13-2008, 02:22 AM   #1
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Default Berni wants a GP in Paris
http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breve...cours_Dev.html

Maybe my French is fading, but for what I understand, Bernie wants a French GP in Paris. Is this Last Bernie's Delirium????
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:04 AM   #2
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Bernie has been talking about a GP at Paris for a while now, about a year ago there was talk about a French GP near Disneyland Paris.
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:13 AM   #3
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Anywhere but Magny-Cours! That track is boredom city....
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:23 AM   #4
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It's not too suprising...

Over the last couple of years he's been trying to get more GPs in cities like Paris and London, similar to what Champ Car was doing the last couple of years with most of their race dates. In some ways, it's an attempt to get the regular venues to dance to his tune, in others it's a way to get more revenue from new sources.

The end will be the same as always; inflated costs for those hosting, with CVC, FOM and himself getting the lion's share of the loot.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:30 AM   #5
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There is a permanent 24 hour GP in Paris along the ring road. It is open to everyone who wants to race there; customer cars are permitted.
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:41 PM   #6
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Any interesting roads in Paris?
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:08 PM   #7
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It's not too suprising...

Over the last couple of years he's been trying to get more GPs in cities like Paris and London, similar to what Champ Car was doing the last couple of years with most of their race dates. In some ways, it's an attempt to get the regular venues to dance to his tune, in others it's a way to get more revenue from new sources.

The end will be the same as always; inflated costs for those hosting, with CVC, FOM and himself getting the lion's share of the loot.
Totally agree!
Bernie is so damn maniacal. Can't he give it a rest for a season or two?
Next he will be saying India needs a track around the Taj Mahal if they want to stay in F1! Personally I've never seen an F1 race at Magny Cour
that wasn't entertaining. It's in the middle of nowhere, So what!
That helps keep certain costs down! Plus there is nobody to complain about the noise!
Unlike the people on these forums not everyone wants a GP at the end of their street.
Those issues will come up in Paris. If the city really wants one they don't need Bernie to tell them they do!
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:08 PM   #8
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Any interesting roads in Paris?
Oh yes! Bernie has indeed been talking about a Paris Grand Prix for quite a few years, ever since Magny Cours started to be on shaky ground.

A track on the outskirts will just not do, if you are going to do a Paris GP then you need to do it properly, i.e. It must incorporate the Champs-Élysées, the Arc de Triomphe and the Place de la Concorde, which is where the FIA headquaters are located.

Just imagine F1 cars racing past here; awesome!
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:44 PM   #9
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I was thinking of actual circuit layout, undulations etc etc rather than scenery. Because scenery is a given
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:57 PM   #10
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Would it be distasteful to race through the Alma tunnel?
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:38 PM   #11
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Would it be distasteful to race through the Alma tunnel?
It'd probably be deemed politically incorrect, but I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Having said that, good luck to Paris if they fall for Bernie's extortion.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:32 PM   #12
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I doubt he will get a race on the streets of downtown Paris.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:35 PM   #13
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Oh yes! Bernie has indeed been talking about a Paris Grand Prix for quite a few years, ever since Magny Cours started to be on shaky ground.

A track on the outskirts will just not do, if you are going to do a Paris GP then you need to do it properly, i.e. It must incorporate the Champs-Élysées, the Arc de Triomphe and the Place de la Concorde, which is where the FIA headquaters are located.

Just imagine F1 cars racing past here; awesome!
The Champs-Élysées, I would think, would certainly be sufficiently wide, but do you think the city of Paris would allow shutting it down for regular traffic for an entire weekend?
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:40 PM   #14
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I'm surprised he hasnt asked for a GP to be staged in my back yard. He wants it everywhere else.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:37 AM   #15
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I'm surprised he hasnt asked for a GP to be staged in my back yard. ...
I recently submitted a similar offer to Bernie but the deal fell through when I informed him that I wouldn't allow tobacco advertising
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:57 AM   #16
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They shut it down for the Tour de France every year so why not.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:04 PM   #17
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They shut it down for the Tour de France every year so why not.
Yes but how big is the sanctioning fee and setup costs for a bicycle race?

Not upwards of $30 million for the event alone plus everything else I'm sure!
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:50 PM   #18
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I recently submitted a similar offer to Bernie but the deal fell through when I informed him that I wouldn't allow tobacco advertising
Let me get this straight. This is the same Bernie Eccleston who threatened to cancel the French GP because they wouldn't allow tobacco sponsorship? And he wants to stage another?

I wonder what my friends the SAS are doing next week...
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:01 PM   #19
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Yes but how big is the sanctioning fee and setup costs for a bicycle race?

Not upwards of $30 million for the event alone plus everything else I'm sure!
For the bike race they pay no fee, it's a historic event for France, that's why they allow themselves to close down the Champs Elysees and some other downtown roads for it.
Not to mention that the Tour de France bikes are so silent compared to F1 cars, that's why those living in that area don't complain about it.
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:30 PM   #20
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Not to mention that the Tour de France bikes are so silent compared to F1 cars, that's why those living in that area don't complain about it.
That's the part I was referring to! good call IOAN!
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