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Old 04-07-2008, 01:04 PM   #21
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FA might laugh at that admission, last year he denied that McLaren favored him to win.

It's just easier to make excuse towards something visible at the track.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:42 PM   #22
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Geez... i've just watched it 2 or 3 times, and i can see no real evidence of Fernando making any big movements right........ Lewis just ploughed up the back of him.

Anyways, Lewis has admitted his error, so this thread is pointless really.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:09 PM   #23
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The stewards decided no investigation was necessary, and Hamilton admitted culpability.

Move on, nothing to see here.
Where's the fun in that? I love it how they made a story of it on ITV without Lewis even having spoken a word on the topic. Of course McLaren piped up about it but they are bound to aren't they?
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:20 PM   #24
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crashes during practice...
muffed start to open the GP....
mounting alonso's gearbox...

no real criticism from the media...

the guy can walk on water i tell ya!
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:26 PM   #25
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crashes during practice...
muffed start to open the GP....
mounting alonso's gearbox...

no real criticism from the media...

the guy can walk on water i tell ya!
Now I don't really like Lewis as a driver but that's utter rubbish. Everyone in the media and on the forum need to chill out a bit. It's one race Massa was apparently getting fired after 2 bad races and now he's won one. Lewis has had ONE bad race out of three. No one is perfect and even the best drivers aren't perfect. I think Sebastien Loeb is about as perfect as they come and even he makes mistakes. Somehow the media seem to project the idea that the best drivers are perfect when in fact they're not perfect at all.......
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:37 PM   #26
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Now I don't really like Lewis as a driver but that's utter rubbish. Everyone in the media and on the forum need to chill out a bit. It's one race Massa was apparently getting fired after 2 bad races and now he's won one. Lewis has had ONE bad race out of three. No one is perfect and even the best drivers aren't perfect. I think Sebastien Loeb is about as perfect as they come and even he makes mistakes. Somehow the media seem to project the idea that the best drivers are perfect when in fact they're not perfect at all.......
wow how is that rubbish? you just helped me prove my point. if it was massa he would have been crucified. the fact of the matter is the media LOVES hamilton.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:40 PM   #27
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wow how is that rubbish? you just helped me prove my point. if it was massa he would have been crucified. the fact of the matter is the media LOVES hamilton.
Not really......

Massa didn't deserve criticism but got it. Lewis doesn't deserve criticism and didn't get it. Doesn't prove anything about Lewis really..... more about Massa and what the media think of him.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:48 PM   #28
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Not really......

Massa didn't deserve criticism but got it. Lewis doesn't deserve criticism and didn't get it. Doesn't prove anything about Lewis really..... more about Massa and what the media think of him.
really...

so the media is biased?
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:07 PM   #29
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really...

so the media is biased?
No. Never
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:09 PM   #30
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It seemed very odd to me as to where and when the two cars got close.

Another one for the X-Files. (Aliens I tell you...)
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:10 PM   #31
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Not really......

Massa didn't deserve criticism but got it. Lewis doesn't deserve criticism and didn't get it. Doesn't prove anything about Lewis really..... more about Massa and what the media think of him.
No, no, more about how shi!ty the media rae these days. Honestly almost all they write is rubbish! Nowadays you almost need to be a genius to be able to find the good columns.

After all, no news is as good as bad news!
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:40 PM   #32
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Lewis deserves a bit of credit. It's not every race in F1 where a driver admits it his fault.
Most of the time drivers admit their mistakes, especially if it is as obvious as Lewis` situation was.
I am surprised some people have been promoting the guess that Alonso braketested Hamilton. How stupid do you have to be to actually fall for that?
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:20 PM   #33
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I am surprised some people have been promoting the guess that Alonso braketested Hamilton. How stupid do you have to be to actually fall for that?
Is that during or after the race? If it was the latter then I would agree with you.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:30 PM   #34
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How stupid do you have to be to actually fall for that?
Not stupid at all, given that Alonso has done irrational moves like that before, and the unusual difference in speed between the two cars.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:44 PM   #35
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Not stupid at all, given that Alonso has done irrational moves like that before, and the unusual difference in speed between the two cars.
What some people failed to see a couple of weeks ago was that FA did a cheeky squeeze on the pit straight as he was side by side with a BMW (NH??).

Didn't see that mentioned on the forum.

If that was Schumi most people would've called that 'dirty driving'
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:12 PM   #36
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Well, initially I suspected that Freddy may have lifted but it seems that Lewis failed to appreciate just how slow he was out of the corner.

Lewis's fault but a racing incident I think.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:14 PM   #37
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at forst sight it seemed like a strange circumstance, andwith the protaganists having some history i wasn't surprised by the thoughts, especially as there was obviously quite a speed differential at the point of impact, and then they decided to only show onebrief replay during the race that only compounded the mystery.

however, to me it looks obvious that Alonso was off line during the previous chicance (presumabley defending his line into turn 1 contriubuted to this) and as a result Lewis got a fantastic run on him out of the chicane.

from that position he should have cruised alongside and executed an easy pass into the next turn, but Alonso started to move accross to cover the line a little (fairly) and Lewis seems not to have reacted, picked up the drive and the draft and cruised into the back wheel.

i'm glad he took responsibility before a witch hunt was taken up against Alonso, although it was not a complete impossibility that a slight lift could have contributed, i'm glad that in this case it wasn't the case.

i was also surprised to read that Lewis said it was his fault for teh start, didn't see about that until this morning, and assumed that as it was such an atrocious get away that there had been some sort of problem, which of course there was, but it was down to Lewis not pressing the right button at the right time - from there on in i thought he looked a little impatient, like the red mist had descended and in his haste he made a further mistake (not unlike the first lap in Brazil last year)

i hope he can improve this trait and channel that agression a little more effectively
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:31 AM   #38
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So I've looked at this video 10-15 times and the more I see it the more it looks like Alonso moved aggressively into Hamilton Line to defend his position and thereby ( by his lack of speed, deliberate or not) simply caused Hamilton to run into the back of his car

http://ballhype.com/video/gp_de_bahr...contra_alonso/

I see Alonso coming off the corner on the ideal line and then moving into the middle of the race track for no reason other than to bother LH, who was clearly going to overtake him on that straight.

He did not pull out of his ideal line to overtake the car in from of him, he simply moved across the track with a faster car approaching him quickly.

I know LH took the high road and refused to lay blame on anyone else but himself. I also know that Renault are ferociously making available telemetry to prove otherwise, but my issue is not with the speed ( or lack thereof as they proclaim) but with the move to the inside of the track where a faster car was clearly outpacing them to overtake and he simply moved over to have that car crash into his back.

I'm pretty sure that this isn't going to be the end of this story as I've heard rumors that Renault and Alonso are going to be called in to explain themselves.

I would ask all who comment to watch the video first and see for themselves if his move to the inside was warranted or not.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:35 AM   #39
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an even better video
http://www.dailymotion.com/cluster/a...tre-hamil_auto
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:53 AM   #40
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A classy post! especially from a partisan! I also am glad LH is taking responsibility. If I thought it really made a difference I'd be yelling for him to start attending(GPDA)saftey) meetings(wouldn't hurt but his decision) A lot of good drivers make mistakes especially young ones! You will never be the champ unless you are two things 1: capable 2: aggressive Ayrton, Mike, Fred, and etc. Hamilton may not always be driving through slower traffic. But those guys are racing you. Some harder than others.
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