Where is Alonso going to go? - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**Greapyjeory** · 10-01-2007, 08:20 AM

I looks to me as if he is running out of options.

Unless Todt is playing 'hard to get', I suggest Alonso might even retire!

Body language as McLaren suggests he must go.

Ferrari dont want him

Renault havent got the pace.

BMW are signed up.

Toyota... Honda.. dont think so.

Redbull 1-50 outside bet.

**we0MA4MI** · 10-01-2007, 08:28 AM

Hmm... I'd still say McLaren.

**incimisiche** · 10-01-2007, 09:00 AM

Renault... no one else will have Alonso !!!

**golfmenorca** · 10-01-2007, 09:13 AM

did anyone see the full Alonso crash?

What exactly happened there?

**yasmin** · 10-01-2007, 12:41 PM

Alonso is being beaten for pole every other race BY A ROOKIE!!!

He is in a car that even A ROOKIE CAN GET POLE IN!!!

The McLaren is an exceptional racing car and should get all the credit. It has made A ROOKIE into world championship material and has reduced a former world champion to picking up the crumbs whenever the rookie makes a rookie mistake.

Alonso deserves an F1 seat but he's not ready to be a first string driver. Where's Minardi when you need them.

**intmarkworkk** · 10-01-2007, 07:28 PM

Alonso is being beaten for pole every other race BY A ROOKIE!!!

He is in a car that even A ROOKIE CAN GET POLE IN!!!

The McLaren is an exceptional racing car and should get all the credit. It has made A ROOKIE into world championship material and has reduced a former world champion to picking up the crumbs whenever the rookie makes a rookie mistake.

Alonso deserves an F1 seat but he's not ready to be a first string driver. Where's Minardi when you need them.

It's not often you read a post and trully wonder why people bother watching Motor Sport

**invasuant** · 10-01-2007, 08:19 PM

I looks to me as if he is running out of options.

I agree, but he has ruled out a sabbatical year.

**PIORARMADDERI** · 10-01-2007, 08:32 PM

Options are still open. Renault looks like the most likely place, Fisi isn't up to the job, if I was Flav I would look to have Alonso and Kovelinen as my drivers.

Ferrari has been mentioned but I can't see any reason why they would get rid of Raikkonen or Massa, they are both exceptional talents, I would rate both of them as at least as good as Alonso.

**PIORARMADDERI** · 10-01-2007, 08:34 PM

I agree, but he has ruled out a sabbatical year.

"I have no news from them." - Alonso on Ferrari.

So it looks like Alonso has been contacting other teams, despite him insisting that he's happy at McLaren.

**invasuant** · 10-01-2007, 09:06 PM

Renault boss Flavio Briatore has confirmed that he has invited Fernando Alonso to rejoin the team whenever he leaves McLaren. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62925

**intmarkworkk** · 10-01-2007, 09:09 PM

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62925

This was the rumour i reported a few weeks ago. Apparently it is more than an open invitation.

**eljugadordepoquer** · 10-01-2007, 09:10 PM

Funny enough, Kovalainen hasn't confirmed anything for next season, except that he won't drive with a second driver status.

**intmarkworkk** · 10-01-2007, 09:18 PM

Funny enough, Kovalainen hasn't confirmed anything for next season, except that he won't drive with a second driver status.

Surely not a team with "no team orders". Not the HK that said Lewis would be a deserving champion

**Accor$314** · 10-01-2007, 09:28 PM

Well, Ferrari is closed because Jean Todt is still there and he is no Alonso fan. What if he is removed and Ross Brawn becomes team manager at Ferrari? We are forgetting that is also a likely scenario. Would Brawn be more willing to form a Raikkonen-Alonso partnership?

**PIORARMADDERI** · 10-01-2007, 09:35 PM

Alonso does have a 3 year contract, however it would be unlikely not to contain get out clauses if both parties were unhappy with their current arrangements.

However, such things usually state that even if the driver or team excercise the get out clauses they remain under contract until 1st January the following year.

So it's quite possible that even if Alonso has decided that he's going to (say) Renault, that he's contractually forbidden to speak of it until next year, or at least until the end of the season.

**mdUzAMbG** · 10-01-2007, 09:38 PM

Funny enough, Kovalainen hasn't confirmed anything for next season, except that he won't drive with a second driver status.

No self-respecting competitor would want to be Alonso's hand-rag. HK saw at first hand how Fisi was diminished by Alonso's style. I'm sure a swap is the logical move if Ron and Flav can agree on how much Renault have to pay

**yasmin** · 10-02-2007, 10:28 AM

It's not often you read a post and trully wonder why people bother watching Motor Sport

Hamilton out-qualifies Alonso and I believe that is a reflection on Alonso rather than the pure brilliance of the boy wonder. I cheer for Hamilton and see him as a deserving WDC purely because he is a ROOKIE and winning an F1 WDC in your first year is quite an achievement.

Hamilton has made Alonso look less than a WDC. That is my point. If Alonso can't beat a driver who has never driven in F1 before then questions must be raised about his ability. I rate him as less than first string but he has probably progressed beyond Minardi level.

Alonso should swap seats with Button and see if he can cut it against Barrichiello. Certainly Alonso could learn something from Barrichiello about grace in defeat.

**we0MA4MI** · 10-02-2007, 11:23 AM

Hamilton has made Alonso look less than a WDC. That is my point. If Alonso can't beat a driver who has never driven in F1 before then questions must be raised about his ability. I rate him as less than first string but he has probably progressed beyond Minardi level.

Alonso should swap seats with Button and see if he can cut it against Barrichiello. Certainly Alonso could learn something from Barrichiello about grace in defeat.

Let's see... This is the same Button that got beaten by Fisichella, the one that Alonso made quite the fool of. And also I don't think Alonso should learn anything from Barrichello, considering Alonso is a double world champ and Barrichello has been by talent and team orders, a number 2 driver for the past 7 years. World champs generally aren't the most generous of people either.

**dolaBeetCeage** · 10-02-2007, 11:47 AM

With an attitude like this :
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The irresistible incentive for Alonso is Briatore's promise of a clear number one status.

"These days it's important that the roles, number one and two, are clear, otherwise you risk to destabilise the team," he told the Italian sports newspaper. "If you hire a World Champion, then you must give him the number one status."

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlin...01161804.shtml
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Alonso will be lucky to find anybody willing to give him a seat. He comes across as a petulant, spoiled child!

**Inenuedbabnor** · 10-02-2007, 12:49 PM

has anyone said prodrive yet? They are supposed to be using full 2008 spec mclaren cars and mercedes engines are they not? Seems like the most logical place for alonso to spend a season while he waits for a seat at ferrari to open up in 2009

10-01-2007, 08:20 AM	#1
Greapyjeory Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 405 Senior Member	Where is Alonso going to go? I looks to me as if he is running out of options. Unless Todt is playing 'hard to get', I suggest Alonso might even retire! Body language as McLaren suggests he must go. Ferrari dont want him Renault havent got the pace. BMW are signed up. Toyota... Honda.. dont think so. Redbull 1-50 outside bet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 08:28 AM	#2
we0MA4MI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Hmm... I'd still say McLaren. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:00 AM	#3
incimisiche Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	Renault... no one else will have Alonso !!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:13 AM	#4
golfmenorca Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 449 Senior Member	did anyone see the full Alonso crash? What exactly happened there? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 12:41 PM	#5
yasmin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 347 Senior Member	Alonso is being beaten for pole every other race BY A ROOKIE!!! He is in a car that even A ROOKIE CAN GET POLE IN!!! The McLaren is an exceptional racing car and should get all the credit. It has made A ROOKIE into world championship material and has reduced a former world champion to picking up the crumbs whenever the rookie makes a rookie mistake. Alonso deserves an F1 seat but he's not ready to be a first string driver. Where's Minardi when you need them. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 07:28 PM	#6
intmarkworkk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Alonso is being beaten for pole every other race BY A ROOKIE!!! He is in a car that even A ROOKIE CAN GET POLE IN!!! The McLaren is an exceptional racing car and should get all the credit. It has made A ROOKIE into world championship material and has reduced a former world champion to picking up the crumbs whenever the rookie makes a rookie mistake. Alonso deserves an F1 seat but he's not ready to be a first string driver. Where's Minardi when you need them. It's not often you read a post and trully wonder why people bother watching Motor Sport Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 08:19 PM	#7
invasuant Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 642 Senior Member	I looks to me as if he is running out of options. I agree, but he has ruled out a sabbatical year. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 08:32 PM	#8
PIORARMADDERI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Options are still open. Renault looks like the most likely place, Fisi isn't up to the job, if I was Flav I would look to have Alonso and Kovelinen as my drivers. Ferrari has been mentioned but I can't see any reason why they would get rid of Raikkonen or Massa, they are both exceptional talents, I would rate both of them as at least as good as Alonso. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 08:34 PM	#9
PIORARMADDERI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	I agree, but he has ruled out a sabbatical year. "I have no news from them." - Alonso on Ferrari. So it looks like Alonso has been contacting other teams, despite him insisting that he's happy at McLaren. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:06 PM	#10
invasuant Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 642 Senior Member	Renault boss Flavio Briatore has confirmed that he has invited Fernando Alonso to rejoin the team whenever he leaves McLaren. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62925 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:09 PM	#11
intmarkworkk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62925 This was the rumour i reported a few weeks ago. Apparently it is more than an open invitation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:10 PM	#12
eljugadordepoquer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 439 Senior Member	Funny enough, Kovalainen hasn't confirmed anything for next season, except that he won't drive with a second driver status. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:18 PM	#13
intmarkworkk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Funny enough, Kovalainen hasn't confirmed anything for next season, except that he won't drive with a second driver status. Surely not a team with "no team orders". Not the HK that said Lewis would be a deserving champion Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:28 PM	#14
Accor$314 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Well, Ferrari is closed because Jean Todt is still there and he is no Alonso fan. What if he is removed and Ross Brawn becomes team manager at Ferrari? We are forgetting that is also a likely scenario. Would Brawn be more willing to form a Raikkonen-Alonso partnership? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:35 PM	#15
PIORARMADDERI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Alonso does have a 3 year contract, however it would be unlikely not to contain get out clauses if both parties were unhappy with their current arrangements. However, such things usually state that even if the driver or team excercise the get out clauses they remain under contract until 1st January the following year. So it's quite possible that even if Alonso has decided that he's going to (say) Renault, that he's contractually forbidden to speak of it until next year, or at least until the end of the season. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 09:38 PM	#16
mdUzAMbG Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	Funny enough, Kovalainen hasn't confirmed anything for next season, except that he won't drive with a second driver status. No self-respecting competitor would want to be Alonso's hand-rag. HK saw at first hand how Fisi was diminished by Alonso's style. I'm sure a swap is the logical move if Ron and Flav can agree on how much Renault have to pay Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-02-2007, 10:28 AM	#17
yasmin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 347 Senior Member	It's not often you read a post and trully wonder why people bother watching Motor Sport Hamilton out-qualifies Alonso and I believe that is a reflection on Alonso rather than the pure brilliance of the boy wonder. I cheer for Hamilton and see him as a deserving WDC purely because he is a ROOKIE and winning an F1 WDC in your first year is quite an achievement. Hamilton has made Alonso look less than a WDC. That is my point. If Alonso can't beat a driver who has never driven in F1 before then questions must be raised about his ability. I rate him as less than first string but he has probably progressed beyond Minardi level. Alonso should swap seats with Button and see if he can cut it against Barrichiello. Certainly Alonso could learn something from Barrichiello about grace in defeat. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-02-2007, 11:23 AM	#18
we0MA4MI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Hamilton has made Alonso look less than a WDC. That is my point. If Alonso can't beat a driver who has never driven in F1 before then questions must be raised about his ability. I rate him as less than first string but he has probably progressed beyond Minardi level. Alonso should swap seats with Button and see if he can cut it against Barrichiello. Certainly Alonso could learn something from Barrichiello about grace in defeat. Let's see... This is the same Button that got beaten by Fisichella, the one that Alonso made quite the fool of. And also I don't think Alonso should learn anything from Barrichello, considering Alonso is a double world champ and Barrichello has been by talent and team orders, a number 2 driver for the past 7 years. World champs generally aren't the most generous of people either. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-02-2007, 11:47 AM	#19
dolaBeetCeage Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 675 Senior Member	With an attitude like this : ----------------- The irresistible incentive for Alonso is Briatore's promise of a clear number one status. "These days it's important that the roles, number one and two, are clear, otherwise you risk to destabilise the team," he told the Italian sports newspaper. "If you hire a World Champion, then you must give him the number one status." http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlin...01161804.shtml --------------------- Alonso will be lucky to find anybody willing to give him a seat. He comes across as a petulant, spoiled child! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-02-2007, 12:49 PM	#20
Inenuedbabnor Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 411 Senior Member	has anyone said prodrive yet? They are supposed to be using full 2008 spec mclaren cars and mercedes engines are they not? Seems like the most logical place for alonso to spend a season while he waits for a seat at ferrari to open up in 2009 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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