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**NutChusty** · 01-12-2012, 03:45 AM

Jari Ketomaa huippukalustolla MM-sarjaan - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset

The program contains five rallyes; Sweden, Acropolis, Portugal, Finland obviously and Rally GB. Ketomaa is faster than Paasonen so resultwise thinking, I'm way disappointed if he is not the champion after rally GB!!!!

**Avaindimik** · 01-12-2012, 03:47 AM

the comparison with Tanak is going to be interesting.

**NutChusty** · 01-12-2012, 03:59 AM

Ketomaa has not tested the car nor the tyres yet. His plan is to get to know the car on the snow of Sweden. After that he expects podium results from the remaining rallyes

That's the spirit

Ketomaa sure knows how to talk the talk, now he only has to walk the walk.

If he is slower than Tanak, he can move back to China and rally there.

**AsmViktor** · 01-12-2012, 04:04 AM

**Menierofe** · 01-12-2012, 06:23 AM

Ketomaa has not tested the car nor the tyres yet. His plan is to get to know the car on the snow of Sweden. After that he expects podium results from the remaining rallyes That's the spirit

Ketomaa sure knows how to talk the talk, now he only has to walk the walk.

If he is slower than Tanak, he can move back to China and rally there.

I remember Paasonen talking and not walking

**NutChusty** · 01-12-2012, 03:00 PM

I remember Paasonen talking and not walking

On serious note, I'm honestly glad Ketomaa has even this small program for this season. The guy is fast. I hope he shoots and scores

**Menierofe** · 01-12-2012, 03:39 PM

Me too, hopefully he can deliver something. DMack tires are unproven though ...

**NutChusty** · 01-12-2012, 03:52 PM

. DMack tires are unproven though ...

Well, one things for sure, Ketomaa shall put them in to a real test

**JeremyIV** · 01-12-2012, 04:43 PM

I share your thoughts. There was a long silence from Ketomaa and I'd given up hope already in this economical climate. One thing for sure, this is better than nothing. But I hope we won't hear excuses on the tyres - although, don't bite the hand that feeds you even if the tyres would prove not worthy. We don't know yet.

Ketomaa is very charismatic, a rally driver who we don't know for always complaining but rather the opposite.

**irrelaAnnekly** · 01-12-2012, 06:02 PM

Apparently former "manager" Kim Vatanen or Craig Pollock are no more supporting Ketomaa. Anybody know what is the situation? Maybe Ogier´s well-paid contract with VW was enough for them...

Without the support from the DMack tyres it would not be possible and great to see some role also for Grönholm and Harkimo, but I doubt that they are putting own money to this project...

**rasiasertew** · 01-12-2012, 07:40 PM

Without the support from the DMack tyres it would not be possible and great to see some role also for Grönholm and Harkimo, but I doubt that they are putting own money to this project...

I think there is no need for Harkimos or Grönholms own money, some Bosses old sponsors might support in some way, but its nice to see that good drivers get help when needed, for Ketomaa its now or never.

**Theorsell** · 01-12-2012, 08:57 PM

Apparently former "manager" Kim Vatanen or Craig Pollock are no more supporting Ketomaa. Anybody know what is the situation?

They are still there.

**AmfitNom** · 01-13-2012, 02:18 AM

Initially Dmack offered a deal only for Sweden (full funding) but Ketomaa managed to get a package of five rallies with the help of his personal supporters including Harkimo and Grönholm besides the old ones.

Ketomaa's target is to drive well and attract more funding to be able to do more rallies in the later season and get a factory contract for 2013.

He will drive in Autotek Motorsport's team.

In finnish: JARI KETOMAA AJAA VIISI RALLIN MM-OSAKILPAILUA - Ralli.net

**Avaindimik** · 01-13-2012, 02:25 AM

he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events...

**AmfitNom** · 01-13-2012, 02:31 AM

he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events...

It's also possible that Dmack has something to say here.

**mazabotman** · 01-13-2012, 04:10 AM

It's also possible that Dmack has something to say here.

Have the Dmacks ever been driven on anger on tarmac in a WR spec car?

**viawbambutt** · 01-13-2012, 04:20 AM

he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events...

Maybe DMACK has hired a asfalt specialist for those, to further develop. They need the right feedback.

**NutChusty** · 01-13-2012, 04:32 AM

he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events...

vkangas is very right with his comment. Originally Ketomaa had plans to drive more WRC rallyes last year and he specificly stated his desire to drive tarmac rallyes as he felt succeeding in them would do him more good than on gravel ones. Unfortunately it all failed with poor partnership. Ketomaa is very confident about his pace on tarmac. More confident than me

**Avaindimik** · 01-13-2012, 04:38 AM

and people are getting upset when i give Slowson a hard time for being a useless waste of space in a car...

If Wilson was serious about his team he would put Ketomaa in his car... As Citroen did with Neuville....

**NutChusty** · 01-13-2012, 04:45 AM

Does anybody know the real reason for Ketomaa's lack of speed last NORF?? That kind of thing cannot happen in this year's rallyes !

01-12-2012, 03:45 AM	#1
NutChusty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	Jari Ketomaa 2012 season Jari Ketomaa huippukalustolla MM-sarjaan - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset The program contains five rallyes; Sweden, Acropolis, Portugal, Finland obviously and Rally GB. Ketomaa is faster than Paasonen so resultwise thinking, I'm way disappointed if he is not the champion after rally GB!!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Avaindimik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	the comparison with Tanak is going to be interesting. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 03:59 AM	#3
NutChusty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	Ketomaa has not tested the car nor the tyres yet. His plan is to get to know the car on the snow of Sweden. After that he expects podium results from the remaining rallyes That's the spirit Ketomaa sure knows how to talk the talk, now he only has to walk the walk. If he is slower than Tanak, he can move back to China and rally there. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 06:23 AM	#5
Menierofe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	Ketomaa has not tested the car nor the tyres yet. His plan is to get to know the car on the snow of Sweden. After that he expects podium results from the remaining rallyes That's the spirit Ketomaa sure knows how to talk the talk, now he only has to walk the walk. If he is slower than Tanak, he can move back to China and rally there. I remember Paasonen talking and not walking Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 03:00 PM	#6
NutChusty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	I remember Paasonen talking and not walking On serious note, I'm honestly glad Ketomaa has even this small program for this season. The guy is fast. I hope he shoots and scores Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 03:39 PM	#7
Menierofe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	Me too, hopefully he can deliver something. DMack tires are unproven though ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 03:52 PM	#8
NutChusty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	. DMack tires are unproven though ... Well, one things for sure, Ketomaa shall put them in to a real test Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 04:43 PM	#9
JeremyIV Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 393 Senior Member	I share your thoughts. There was a long silence from Ketomaa and I'd given up hope already in this economical climate. One thing for sure, this is better than nothing. But I hope we won't hear excuses on the tyres - although, don't bite the hand that feeds you even if the tyres would prove not worthy. We don't know yet. Ketomaa is very charismatic, a rally driver who we don't know for always complaining but rather the opposite. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 06:02 PM	#10
irrelaAnnekly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	Apparently former "manager" Kim Vatanen or Craig Pollock are no more supporting Ketomaa. Anybody know what is the situation? Maybe Ogier´s well-paid contract with VW was enough for them... Without the support from the DMack tyres it would not be possible and great to see some role also for Grönholm and Harkimo, but I doubt that they are putting own money to this project... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 07:40 PM	#11
rasiasertew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 561 Senior Member	Without the support from the DMack tyres it would not be possible and great to see some role also for Grönholm and Harkimo, but I doubt that they are putting own money to this project... I think there is no need for Harkimos or Grönholms own money, some Bosses old sponsors might support in some way, but its nice to see that good drivers get help when needed, for Ketomaa its now or never. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-12-2012, 08:57 PM	#12
Theorsell Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Apparently former "manager" Kim Vatanen or Craig Pollock are no more supporting Ketomaa. Anybody know what is the situation? They are still there. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 02:18 AM	#13
AmfitNom Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	Initially Dmack offered a deal only for Sweden (full funding) but Ketomaa managed to get a package of five rallies with the help of his personal supporters including Harkimo and Grönholm besides the old ones. Ketomaa's target is to drive well and attract more funding to be able to do more rallies in the later season and get a factory contract for 2013. He will drive in Autotek Motorsport's team. In finnish: JARI KETOMAA AJAA VIISI RALLIN MM-OSAKILPAILUA - Ralli.net Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 02:25 AM	#14
Avaindimik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 02:31 AM	#15
AmfitNom Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events... It's also possible that Dmack has something to say here. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 04:10 AM	#16
mazabotman Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	It's also possible that Dmack has something to say here. Have the Dmacks ever been driven on anger on tarmac in a WR spec car? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 04:20 AM	#17
viawbambutt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 591 Senior Member	he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events... Maybe DMACK has hired a asfalt specialist for those, to further develop. They need the right feedback. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 04:32 AM	#18
NutChusty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	he is certainly an attractive choice for any factory but he is not doing himself any favors by skipping tarmac events... vkangas is very right with his comment. Originally Ketomaa had plans to drive more WRC rallyes last year and he specificly stated his desire to drive tarmac rallyes as he felt succeeding in them would do him more good than on gravel ones. Unfortunately it all failed with poor partnership. Ketomaa is very confident about his pace on tarmac. More confident than me Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 04:38 AM	#19
Avaindimik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	and people are getting upset when i give Slowson a hard time for being a useless waste of space in a car... If Wilson was serious about his team he would put Ketomaa in his car... As Citroen did with Neuville.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 04:45 AM	#20
NutChusty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	Does anybody know the real reason for Ketomaa's lack of speed last NORF?? That kind of thing cannot happen in this year's rallyes ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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