[AngelinaLip]

The IRC seems to be overall organized better then the WRC these days, and to me personally I think it has some exciting (more exciting?) events on it's calendar.

Am I totally losing my mind or is it the case?

[Narcodran]

Have you had a look at the 2012 calendar and level / depth of drivers?!

The IRC has had some good seasons before, but this new one ain't gonna be one of them.

[AsmViktor]

What's this?! :P

[7HlBQS8j]

Despite its problems, the WRC is and will remain the Formula One in rallying.

[viawbambutt]

Despite its problems, the WRC is and will remain the Formula One in rallying.

True, but IRC has had closer fights, and has been more exiting to follow. Mainly because the cars are more closely matched - and no factory cars that are way above the rest in spec !

[Hoijdxvh]

IF this question would have been asked 2-3 years ago, I would say IRC is more interesting, but now...

[JeremyIV]

Why choose one when you can have both?

[Nurse_sero]

Couple of years ago I would say yes IRC was possibly better but not in 2012.

There has also been too many cars with only partial development and poor championship commitment, opel corsa, vw polo, mg. Even the proton has been around for some years yet not that many outings consistently.

Then the M sport bring fiesta out pretty recently in 2010 and now here we are in 2012 and as I understand it the normally aspirated 2000cc rules are going to be out of date?

Why cant they just leave the rules alone for at least 10 years to give stability and allow older cars to continue to be used.

There is no point in anybody telling me that some new 1.6t 2013 rally car will give fuel economy, of course it wont so why not let things alone.

But maybe the powers in charge understand things better than me and for 2013 everyone will have lots of money to buy new rally cars.

[Gudronich]

I think it will be a bit one sided this year, as there seem's to be more skoda's running and full factory cars. it could be as good as the wrc but they need more top cars fiesta's,207/208, mini's and the protons. if they got that then it would be on par in my eyes

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

last year the IRC was more interesting

[Sx1qBli0]

You could find IRC more exciting if you only follow rallys through a computer. Live on the stages WRC is far more exciting

[NarunapyCalry]

You could find IRC more exciting if you only follow rallys through a computer. Live on the stages WRC is far more exciting

Speaking just about watching events live... It's not always like You say... For example Monte Carlo 2009 - 2011 was at least for me definitely better to watch than 2012 edition (so where all other IRC events I saw - Barum and Ypres). Frankly I was disappointed this year. I know stages of Monte Carlo well so I don't believe it was just that I had three times good luck and once bad luck. Next year I'm not going again.

On a rally like Finland it is quite a big difference in favor of WRC against S2000 but on asphalt I find the S2000 more spectacular than WRC (except tight hairpins which I don't visit anyway). The era of spectacular asphalt WRC cars is long gone. First five years of their existence sure they were great but later...

[obegeLype]

The era of spectacular asphalt WRC cars is long gone. First five years of their existence sure they were great but later...

Couldn't agree more!

[soitlyobserty]

Where's choice for "F-Cup is best!"? Poll Fail..

And no bacon?

[viawbambutt]

Mirek: The era of spectacular asphalt WRC cars is long gone.

Why:
Too advanced undertray
Too little power
All adopting Loeb Drivingstyle
Other causes ?

[JohnMaltczevitch]

Look at the entry for this weekends IRC round and then compare it to what we had in WRC Mexico... enough said

[ENGINESSQ]

Mirek: The era of spectacular asphalt WRC cars is long gone.

Why:
Too advanced undertray
Too little power
All adopting Loeb Drivingstyle
Other causes ?

i believe it's a combination of the first two, which results in the third.

nowadays they just have to much grip in comparison to the power available. if you want spectacular asphalt cars, you should make them drive on energy-saver tyres.

[AsmViktor]

Let's say both series are good. That's all.

[NarunapyCalry]

i believe it's a combination of the first two, which results in the third.

nowadays they just have to much grip in comparison to the power available. if you want spectacular asphalt cars, you should make them drive on energy-saver tyres.

It may sound strange but WRC is good example that it's not true. In WRC events they have universal tyre tread for dry or wet. As a result these tyres have worse grip on dry asphalt than slicks used in IRC or other series.

In my opinion the worse grip You have the more You try not to spin Your wheels. For example let's see wet asphalt rallies. From Your logic they should be extremely spectacular because there is very little grip. But in reality it is almost always boring. Almost everyone is trying to drive clean lines with careful acceleration without sliding. And the more of water on stage the more boring driving. For me that is the reason why I really don't like watching really wet asphalt events.

[GueseVekdet]

Even though I didn't visit Monte live ever, I found it a more interesting event to follow and watch in the IRC years.

Agree IRC is having a "quiet" year but there should still be some events with good entries.

Maybe a resurgence next year for IRC with the R4T cars. I hope they are "proper" rally cars like S2000 and not like watching road cars in Tesco's car park like R3T.

Providing the FIA and series promoters get car regulations/series rules and calendars right, there is room for two strong rally series' IMO.