[lagunaEl]

Well, I guess I see it this way.

I understand your perspective, and I on the surface of it agree with you. People are just people. If everyone had your attitude, there wouldn't be a problem.

However, that's not the way the world is. People have perceptions, and their perceptions color the way they treat people. If it were a miniscule minority that held that opinion, all would be good. The problem hinges on the fact that it isn't a minority opinion. It is a majority opinion.
People treat people the way they do because they work purely out of perception that is based on the past. Much of it fear based. It may even be based on concepts that have been handed to them that they haven't even tested against their actual experience Right Now.

The majority, in a democracy, more or less make the rules. That's the sticking point. Nah..the folks in power make the rules.

The second problem is that for many people the Internet is the only way for AB's to get help. This is especially true of young AB's. No highschool sex ed class or support groups are there for them. There is no outrach, nor would htere be more then likely. It is easier to get help and support if a person is gay, then it wouldbe if they were hetrosexual and an AB. Help for what? Help for the fact that being AB is OK? Or to help them recognize what they are?

I guess the question then would be, is it right to speak up? Surely, if we are all human beings, and we are all equal , then they are no more worthy of respect and dignity then anyone else. I would encourage people that are tolerant like yourself to do what is right, and not contribute to it. You should know that as stupid as the people who go on Jerry Springer are, as attention hungry and foolish as it they may be, there humans like you. What if that was your son or daughter up there? Speak up about what? (I'm not being deliberately stupid but am wondering what is at the root of their need to speak up)

[VowJoyday]

I'm really confused...how does all of this pertain to the original topic???

[Klavalala]

I'm really confused...how does all of this pertain to the original topic???

It doesn't. Isn't there a thread elsewhere about AB's and their beliefs?



As far as proving that God wrote the Bible: the original text may have been written by God; but throughout the centuries, man has translated, changed, added to, edited, etc. the original text into a multitude of languages. Words had to be added or taken out to come close to the original meaning. No two languages have 100% of their words that mean the same thing.

[duawLauff]

A great point, Momwolf (and OHCowgirl!)

[Elissetecausa]

It doesn't. It evolved into this from some dialogue (and questions) submitted earlier by Eden.

I'm really confused...how does all of this pertain to the original topic???

[phenterminediett]

Just my 1.5 cents. Man wrote all bibles. The bibles themselves even state so. And the bibles even attribute certain chapters to specific individuals. And not all chapters are written as a result of divine inspiration. I have always suggested that John was on LSD when he wrote Revelations.

Let us never confuse the divine with the human.

Peace & Love!

[advabHixavoip]

Just my 1.5 cents. Man wrote all bibles. The bibles themselves even state so. And the bibles even attribute certain chapters to specific individuals. And not all chapters are written as a result of divine inspiration. I have always suggested that John was on LSD when he wrote Revelations.

Let us never confuse the divine with the human.

Peace & Love!

Now there's something to think about. John being on LSD when writing Revelations. Is that book meant to be taken literally, or metaphorically?

[i32I7qyH]

Is that book meant to be taken literally, or metaphorically?

That question is still hotly debated. There are those who say that everything in the Bible should be taken literally and there are others, all very knowledgeable, who say that most of the writings are meant to be taken metaphorically.

I fall in with the second group even though I am not a Christian. When I get into a discussion of the Bible it is possible to discuss it in a positive manner only if I speak from this position.

Peace & Love!

[UnmariKam]

Just my opinion, but I believe that the bible was written by man as a guide to how life should be lived at the time it was written. Not an end all be all, follow me to the death, transcribed by the divine book it is made out to be. Scientist and theologist have been uncover stories of similar nature from very different sources. Take a look at Noah and the great flood. Sounds just like Gilgamesh (sp) from an old Mesopotamian story. There was even an Egyptian tale of a similar nature. Plus if Adam and Eve were the first humans, then who were the other tribes that were around them and how did they come to be? Things that make you go, HMMM.

[VQdeochratis]

Just my opinion, but I believe that the bible was written by man as a guide to how life should be lived at the time it was written. Not an end all be all, follow me to the death, transcribed by the divine book it is made out to be. Scientist and theologist have been uncover stories of similar nature from very different sources. Take a look at Noah and the great flood. Sounds just like Gilgamesh (sp) from an old Mesopotamian story. There was even an Egyptian tale of a similar nature. Plus if Adam and Eve were the first humans, then who were the other tribes that were around them and how did they come to be? Things that make you go, HMMM.

Exactly, Rev Shane. I wondered that from the beginning (no pun intended). If Cain was banished from the area after he killed his brother Abel, who then did he meet and have children with? I believe many other people were created at the same time; they just weren't written about.

[Nmoitmzr]

All Sacred Books -- including the Bible -- were written by Man. Let us not blame God for our mistakes.

Hermano Luis

[serius_06]

All Sacred Books -- including the Bible -- were written by Man. Let us not blame God for our mistakes.

Hermano Luis

Amen to that!

[intisgunkas]

Great point as always, Luis!

[IrrettelatWet]

All Sacred Books -- including the Bible -- were written by Man. Let us not blame God for our mistakes.

Hermano Luis

Exactly

[avaissema]

Great point, Luis.

I also believe that the human writers wrote their own interpretations when writing the holy texts. We could all go watch a sunset, yet each of us would be inspired to write something different. No two writings would read 100% verbatim. What one would call an "orb" someone else may call a "ball" or a "great light." Who is correct? We all are. Who is wrong? No one.

*goes and sits down before she gets too wordy*

[seosoftseo]

Excellent! And that is true for absolutely everything. Not only would our writings vary but so would what we perceived. (Never mind even putting it into words)

Great point, Luis.

I also believe that the human writers wrote their own interpretations when writing the holy texts. We could all go watch a sunset, yet each of us would be inspired to write something different. No two writings would read 100% verbatim. What one would call an "orb" someone else may call a "ball" or a "great light." Who is correct? We all are. Who is wrong? No one.

*goes and sits down before she gets too wordy*

[courlerwele]

Exactly, Rev Shane. I wondered that from the beginning (no pun intended). If Cain was banished from the area after he killed his brother Abel, who then did he meet and have children with? I believe many other people were created at the same time; they just weren't written about.

The Book of Jubilee makes clear that Cain and Seth had sisters whom they married.

So that may be a partial answer.

[golozhopik]

The Book of Jubilee makes clear that Cain and Seth had sisters whom they married.

No wonder mankind has gone awry - too much in-breeding.

Peace & Love!

[somamasoso]

I also believe that the human writers wrote their own interpretations when writing the holy texts. We could all go watch a sunset, yet each of us would be inspired to write something different. No two writings would read 100% verbatim. What one would call an "orb" someone else may call a "ball" or a "great light." Who is correct? We all are. Who is wrong? No one.

Beautifully said!
If only more people could see things this way, there would be so much less to fight about!
Peace and Love, MW

[viagra-kaufen]

Excellent! And that is true for absolutely everything. Not only would our writings vary but so would what we perceived. (Never mind even putting it into words)