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Old 01-06-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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I can only speak for myself.

I have had two near death experiences, if you want to call them that.Personally the amount of time I was under I would categorize those experiences as death.

I drowned twice and both times I did see the light,floated out of my body.It was wonderful and I didn't want to come back but I was made to.Given the choice I wouldn't have.
I think those are the two times in my life I can honestly say I was at peace.


So for me at least, I can say life after death.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:27 PM   #2
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On 7 March 2006 I suffered a massive heart attack and "died" on the table. I remember watching the doctors work on me and seeing the one grab the paddles and tell everyone to clear. I remember trying to tell him "No", and even tho he seemed to look my way, I was jolted back into my body with the shock. It wasn't long enough for me to see the light but I am still curious. I know that at least part of me will go on, I'm just not sure to where (I don't mean heaven or hell. I believe that hell is actually some of the situations we go thru here!)
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:33 PM   #3
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I believe that hell is actually some of the situations we go thru here!)
I think I believe that also, to some degree. Thanks for sharing that neat experience. It seems so impossible that a person can die, and then live again moments later. But it is very much possible!

Although I have never died, there was a moment when I consciously left my body, floated out of the car and into the sky. It was gorgeous up there...endless sky, and so warm! Or at least, the sky and clouds were tinted warm hues of gold and pink. I've never felt so free and light! A sudden jolt and there I was, back in my body and wondering why the hell I couldn't have stayed outside. It was a lovely experience. The experience itself was probably only seconds, though it felt like an eternity, or timeless. A state of infinite existence.
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Old 05-13-2007, 12:00 PM   #4
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one's body is absorbed into the earth and used as nutrients, or supposed to anyway
I can work with your view....
Those nutrients will then provide life, as in the cycle of life with no beginning or end.Just continued.
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:48 PM   #5
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well death is life, life is death, no seperation between the two, I am honoured to be part of the life cycle

new developments will make me have to refine all this again
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:02 AM   #6
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After coming to grips with some issues related to a fundamentalist Christian background, I am leaning toward the thoughtline that any afterlife specifically involves the will of the individual who is moving on. It seems the choice to move on must come from within oneself. Should one's existence be too much to handle, maybe the choice is made to cease the struggle completely and the essence moves back into the whole. Those who make the choice to continue do so of their own accord and own strength in making the choice to move on.
I believe the struggle is to maintain individuality both now and afterlife.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:38 PM   #7
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~ That is a really neat post! Thank you!!!
WoW.
I really like that alot.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:56 PM   #8
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Enlightning! Thank you all. Any more?
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:06 AM   #9
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I couldn't really tell you what it holds, because...well, I'm still alive! Having not experienced death in this life line, I wouldn't be able to give you any answers set in stone.

My beliefs personally revolve around reincarnation and other dimensons. How? I don't know. I've experienced past life memories that have come seemingly for no where, and have detected past lives in other people. But its up to speculation really. It makes sense, as energy cannot be destroyed, that it must go somewhere. And if we, are souls, are energy, then that esscense of ourselves must continue on in some form or other.

But what is it you believe? And how do you feel about life after death?


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Old 06-06-2007, 01:36 PM   #10
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Ron,I totally agree with you.

I have always said Hell is on Earth,as well as in our heads.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:03 PM   #11
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Hi Ron,

For me life and death are one and the same. A process of change.

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Old 11-05-2007, 08:05 PM   #12
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Since this forum has members from a variety of beliefs, what do you think the afterlife holds, or do you even believe in life after this one? Seriously.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:36 PM   #13
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Hi Ron,

We talked about this a few months ago but it is always an interesting subject.

I would ask you first to define 'life' so that I might have a point of reference.

Thanks.

Peace & Love!
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:24 PM   #14
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I would define it as your present existence, from birth until cessation of breath.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:40 PM   #15
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Hi Ron,

Good start.

Okay. This being called Jim was born a few years ago (no, I'm not going to tell how many) and Jim is currently typing on the keyboard so we will assume that I am still alive.

What was this stuff that is now me before I was born? Many other things for sure. What will become of me when I die? 'I' will become many other things for sure.

Within my philosophy there is the thought that "Everything that is, is, always has been, and always will be." Everything just takes on different form over time.

The fact that my brain is active and my heart is pumping blood gives 'this stuff that I am' consciousness. When my brain ceases to be active and my heart no longer pumps blood 'I' (my consciousness) will be no more. The end. But wait ...

You know, like in the commercials, there's more. When 'I' die 'this stuff that I am' will continue to exist. 'I' just take on different form(s). That is, what 'I' am will still exist even though 'I' will no longer exist in this form.

I do not believe in any form of consciousness after I am brain dead. Afterall, it is our brain (and mind) that allows us consciousness.

Can I say there will be a spiritual Jim? No. Can I say Jim will be reincarnated? No. Can I say that part of what was Jim will become a part of some other conscious being? Maybe.

Consider that I believe that there truely is no 'end' to anything. But there are transformations and transmutations. There was no 'beginning' because everything that is always has been so. How could there be an end if there was no beginning?

Peace & Love!
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:43 PM   #16
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So a kind of cosmic melting pot where "essence" returns to be reused at a later time? Does that about cover it?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:45 PM   #17
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Anyone else?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:51 PM   #18
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So a kind of cosmic melting pot where "essence" returns to be reused at a later time? Does that about cover it?
Yep!

Peace & Love!
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:07 AM   #19
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Thank you for sharing. It is indeed something to consider......
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:21 AM   #20
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agree with jim,but believe in reincarnation.
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