[Peptobismol]

Dear Delusional Believer:

i do not accept the bible as "god’s word because it contains thousand of errancies and contradictions that can not be solved, only rationalized. i refuse to accept your invisibleman as my personal savior, for his behavior and teachings often expose one who should be escaped and not worshipped. i ask that you read this pamphlet in light of the bible teachings , christians should be “open to reason” (James 3:17 RSV), that we should “reason together” (Isaiah 1:18) and “he who hates correction will die” (Proverbs 15:10) to understand my perspective that the bible has MANY shortcomings.

1. according to your storybook i am to believe that human kind is sinful for adam and eve ate the fruit of knowledge. why are we being punished for the original sin? after all, they ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t. reason would lead one to say it’s their problem, not ours. even the storybook contradicts itself by claiming in Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”

2. we are told that the Bible has no scientific errors and is utterly perfect/protected, yet it says the bat is a bird (Leviticus 11:13 & 19), hares chew the cud (Leviticus 11:5-6), and some fowl (Leviticus 11:20-21) and insects (Leviticus 11:22-23) have four legs.

3. heaven supposed to be a perfect place. it is of course, the place you strive for and name “salvation”. yet, it experienced a war (Revelation 12:7). how can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn’t it happen again? why would I want to go to a place in which war can occur? that’s exactly what I’m trying to escape, aren’t you ?

4. you are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) and then the Bible claims that it is repentance that shall save us (2 Peter 3:9) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-1 8 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life. so which way is it and how do you know your belief is the correct one?

5. according to the text there are 29 cities listed in Joshua 15:21-32. one need only count them to see that biblical math is not to be trusted. The total is 36.

6. surely you don’t believe Ecclesiastes 1:9 RSV (“What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun”)? how many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969 ?

7. if the bible is our moral guide, then how can it make pornographic statements such as: “...they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you” (2 Kings 18:27) ? also consult Numbers 31 where a whole tribe of people, including the elderly and children are slaughtered. the only survivors were the virginal women, who were later raped by the “just and perfect” moses and his men. is that what you want your children reading on Sunday ? i feel sad for you .

8. if the invisibleman created everything, (Colossians 1:16, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 4:11 & John 1:3), then he did create the world’s evil (Isaiah 45:7, Lamentations 3:38). Thus, he is responsible. any being who could create situations such as rape, death, malnutrition, disease, molestation and murder is certainly not fit for worship.

9. for justice to exist, punishment must fit the crime. no matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. yet, hell’s punishment is infinitely greater. it’s eternal. shouldn’t a sinner suffer until remorse is felt and the crime is atoned for? what “justice” is there in infinite damnation?

10. jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 27:19, Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. shouldn’t he be in danger of hell too ? jesus also told us to “Love your enemies; bless them that curse you," but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 12:34 (“0 generation of vipers”), and Matthew 23 :27 (“... hypocrites... ye are like unto whited sepulchres.“) are excellent examples of hypocrisy. if Jesus himself is a sinner by his own admission then surely he can not be the “perfect lamb of god”.

11. except those of biased christian writers, there isn’t one writing outside the bible in all of ancient history that clearly refers to Jesus of Nazareth. the decision to dedicate my life to a deity requires at least one shred of conclusive evidence. your lord knows non believers exist as a result of this, yet he makes no attempt to supply proof. how can the bible claim god wants all in heaven if he doesn’t make efforts to ensure that we all believe in him ?

12. Paul says christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:14-17). yet jesus made many promises concerning his return during the lifetime of his then followers. (Matthew 16:28: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom”. Matthew 23:36, 24:34, Mark.9:1, 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:32 & John 21:22) none of these prophecies have come true . does this not make Jesus a false prophet? If so wouldn’t that make Christianity invalid ?

13. i find the idea that a man had to die for my sins revolting. if God was truly omnipotent he could have simply forgiven us. what kind of deity, would execute one child in order to forgive it’s others ? modern society would call an individual like this sadistic, insane and cruel . surely, you would not worship a child killer, why do you expect me to ? would you find a judge worthy of the title who would allow my child to be executed in lieu of my sins?

14. John 14:12 states a follower in jesus can perform any of his works and do it even greater. if you continue to insist i believe in Jesus, it is only fair i may ask of you to show just how strong your faith is. After all, you would be my “mentor” in Christ. i’m not a believer as of yet, but surely you are. would you mind perhaps resurrecting a dead relative or walking on water ?

15. okay, obviously you didn’t do number 14 and backed out with the “this is metaphorical” excuse. surely you can try Mark 16:17-1 8 which says believers can drink “any deadly thing” and “it shall not hurt” them. but I don’t think you would be naive enough to drink any arsenic offered. perhaps i’m wrong and you would be willing to test the book’s veracity”lay it on the line” so to speak?

16. all right, so now you have backed out of two of my questions. i’m starting to think you don’t really care about my salvation as much as you claim. well, unlike your Jehovah, i shall be kind and offer a third chance at redemption. consider Jesus’ teaching in Luke 6:30 “Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.” perhaps, if you emptied your wallet and “give of thee” i may seriously ponder accepting Jesus as my savior.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

[tgs]

Nobody worships the Bible sir. you are barking up the wrong tree again bro. Ahahahahahahahahahaha...................

cheers

[Big A]

Nobody worships the Bible sir. you are barking up the wrong tree again bro. Ahahahahahahahahahaha...................

cheers

do you believe the bible ? whahahahaha...worships means beliving too ...idiot whahahhah

[Beerinkol]

how come only one cult member here ..wheres the rest of the gang ? did i put enough bait in this thread ? ok , i shall put more bait here

[NeroASERCH]

double post

[TorryJens]

do you believe the bible ? whahahahaha...worships means beliving too ...idiot whahahhah

Believe is believe, worship is worship sir. Why so simple also you cannot know?

[HedgeYourBets]

Believe is believe, worship is worship sir. Why so simple also you cannot know?

if you dont believe you will not worship ...idiot whahahahahah. you worship because you believe .

[HedgeYourBets]

If you try very hard to disprove it.

It must be true!

[Peptobismol]

If you try very hard to disprove it.

It must be true!

?????? form is emptiness , emptiness is form ? sound familiar ?

[Ifroham4]

do you believe the bible ? whahahahaha...worships means beliving too ...idiot whahahhah

If by your reasoning: Believe = Worship; and Worship = Believe, and since you believe in evolution you also worship evolution. Since you believe Charles Darwin, by your reasoning, you also worship him. And by your reasoning, you have made Charles Darwin your god. I respect your reasoning but I respectfully disgreed that Charles Darwin was god.

And by our reasoning, we believe in the the redemptive work of Jesus, and we worship Him as our God, indeed a Living God.

And by your reasoning, if you think that you are better because you worship Charles Darwin as a god than I too respect your choice. Keep worshiping him.

[softy54534]

If by your reasoning: Believe = Worship; and Worship = Believe, and since you believe in evolution you also worship evolution. Since you believe Charles Darwin, by your reasoning, you also worship him. And by your reasoning, you have made Charles Darwin your god. I respect your reasoning but I respectfully disgreed that Charles Darwin was god.

And by our reasoning, we believe in the the redemptive work of Jesus, and we worship Him as our God, indeed a Living God.

And by your reasoning, if you think that you are better because you worship Charles Darwin as a god than I too respect your choice. Keep worshiping him.

darwin is not god ..and i dont worship him ...not all the things he said i believe ...as i said many times...we dont know and we are willing to learn ....thats the beauti of science we keep on having experiments ...we dont stop at one answer . unlike you guys you stop thinking when you read your bible .

[brraverishhh]

darwin is not god ..and i dont worship him ...not all the things he said i believe ...as i said many times...we dont know and we are willing to learn ....thats the beauti of science we keep on having experiments ...we dont stop at one answer . unlike you guys you stop thinking when you read your bible .

If there are things you don't know, then for goodness sake, please stoping tell people they were from monkey....until you absolutely know of the fact. And you believe in part of what Charles Darwin told you, so you, by your reasong, should be worshipping him in part....he may not be 100% your god but, by your reasoning, he is half-god to you....a demi-god.

Nonethless, tells us which one you don't believe of him....for me, I don't believe him 100%. I truly believe - 100% - we are created by God as told in the Bible. We believe the Bible, but we don't worship the Bible. Instead, we worship the God of the Bible....see the difference!

Note that the greatest beauty of science is that it reveals God's glory. No human can create physical laws of science, e.g gravity, electro-magnetic, nuclear forces, etc Science merely discovers it and describes the effects of these physical laws, sometime through experiments but many of these effects can be seen through just observations.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

you believe in something...you worship him/her.....

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

If there are things you don't know, then for goodness sake, please stoping tell people they were from monkey....until you absolutely know of the fact. And you believe in part of what Charles Darwin told you, so you, by your reasong, should be worshipping him in part....he may not be 100% your god but, by your reasoning, he is half-god to you....a demi-god.

Nonethless, tells us which one you don't believe of him....for me, I don't believe him 100%. I truly believe - 100% - we are created by God as told in the Bible. We believe the Bible, but we don't worship the Bible. Instead, we worship the God of the Bible....see the difference!

Note that the greatest beauty of science is that it reveals God's glory. No human can create physical laws of science, e.g gravity, electro-magnetic, nuclear forces, etc Science merely discovers it and describes the effects of these physical laws, sometime through experiments but many of these effects can be seen through just observations.

i told you many times already homo sapiens is not a monkey . and please stop telling ppl you are make of DIRT . whahahaha.



" And you believe in part of what Charles Darwin told you, so you, by your reasong, should be worshipping him in part....he may not be 100% your god but, by your reasoning, he is half-god to you....a demi-god.

I DONT EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD ..WHAT DEMI-DOG YOU ALKING ABOUT ?



" Nonethless, tells us which one you don't believe of him....for me, I don't believe him 100%. I truly believe - 100% - we are created by God as told in the Bible. We believe the Bible, but we don't worship the Bible. Instead, we worship the God of the Bible....see the difference "!

SO YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE A PIECE OF DIRT ? NEXT TIME I CALL YOU DIRT LIAO EVERYTHING ALSO MADE BY GOD ? YOUR GOD ALSO MAKE YOU STUPID .. WHAHAHAHAH

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

i told you many times already homo sapiens is not a monkey . and please stop telling ppl you are make of DIRT . whahahaha.



" And you believe in part of what Charles Darwin told you, so you, by your reasong, should be worshipping him in part....he may not be 100% your god but, by your reasoning, he is half-god to you....a demi-god.

I DONT EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD ..WHAT DEMI-DOG YOU ALKING ABOUT ?



" Nonethless, tells us which one you don't believe of him....for me, I don't believe him 100%. I truly believe - 100% - we are created by God as told in the Bible. We believe the Bible, but we don't worship the Bible. Instead, we worship the God of the Bible....see the difference "!

SO YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE A PIECE OF DIRT ? NEXT TIME I CALL YOU DIRT LIAO EVERYTHING ALSO MADE BY GOD ? YOUR GOD ALSO MAKE YOU STUPID .. WHAHAHAHAH

Yes...I do....we are made of dust but this is not the only component....there is one that we have (but perhaps not in you)...God's breath of life (Genesis 2:7): And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

[LottiFurmann]

i told you many times already homo sapiens is not a monkey .....WHAHAHAHAH

Looks like God-given conscience is pricking you!

So, would it be ok for us to tell you that you are distant cousins of monkeys or apes? And so, it should be ok for the monkeys or apes to be your great-great-great-great uncle....and would this make you happier, and oh yes, you should after all you have 98% of their genes!

Sorry....if scientists have told me that I have 98% of my genes similar to monkeys or apes i still cannot accept they were in any way related to me.....all living things are created by God and God uses a common material called DNA to create living things and thus we can expect to find some common similarities. But it is very clear from Genesis 2:7 that human were created after all other living things. Furthermore, human is completely different from your distant cousins in the sense that God breathed in the nostrils of human and they became living souls, unlike your distant cousins who were not given the breath of life.

[Lt_Apple]

Yes...I do....we are made of dust but this is not the only component....there is one that we have (but perhaps not in you)...God's breath of life (Genesis 2:7): And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

using the bible and defence the bible again ? thats the best you can do ? i can also quote many evil message from your evil bible

[S.T.D.]

Looks like God-given conscience is pricking you!

So, would it be ok for us to tell you that you are distant cousins of monkeys or apes? And so, it should be ok for the monkeys or apes to be your great-great-great-great uncle....and would this make you happier, and oh yes, you should after all you have 98% of their genes!

Sorry....if scientists have told me that I have 98% of my genes similar to monkeys or apes i still cannot accept they were in any way related to me.....all living things are created by God and God uses a common material called DNA to create living things and thus we can expect to find some common similarities. But it is very clear from Genesis 2:7 that human were created after all other living things. Furthermore, human is completely different from your distant cousins in the sense that God breathed in the nostrils of human and they became living souls, unlike your distant cousins who were not given the breath of life.

your common sense let you believe that you are created from dirt rather then homo sapiens ? wow , how smart are you . so dirt have life ? and can turn to a human ? whahahahaha