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Old 12-19-2005, 03:29 AM   #1
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So this is a direct copy and paste from the websites which you link to at the end of your post. Your websites.

I'm interested... I see that you believe in God, do you believe the stories about Jesus and that He was the Christ?

You seem to have something against the Bible and I understand that actually. I have discussed the points you make with some friends of mine for the last year or so. But, if you believe in a Loving God, How did you learn about this God? How did you come to know Him if it were not for the Bible?

I have a lot to say, but I want to take it slow (and I have to get ready for work).
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:32 AM   #2
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That is rather vague. From your website I get the feeling that you are trying to witness to people what you have learned by the guidance of God.
I find myself wondering whether you are bad with words (like Moses) or just dont have a lot of time to spare at the moment with Christmas only a week away and all.

That may sound like IÔÇÖm calling you out, but please donÔÇÖt think that. IÔÇÖm just curious as to what it is that make you feel so strongly that you know who God is and how He is.
Reading the book of Job is always a little enlightening to me. It reminds me that I cannot question why God wanted to use Saul to destroy the Amalekites (Women, Children, and Cattle included) and why He did not do it Himself with fire and brimstone from heaven like Sodom and Gomorrah. I can only assume that GodÔÇÖs reasoning was to test SaulÔÇÖs obedience (seeing as that whole thing with the Amalekites was the reason God then chose David to be King of Israel).

Just to make a note here: If you read Exodus 17:8-16 you will see where God first said He would blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:22 PM   #3
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"I find myself wondering whether you are bad with words (like Moses) or just don't have a lot of time to spare at the moment. with Christmas only a week away and all."

After all these years of debating with the religious, I've nothing but disdain for the religious who refuse to use the good senses that God has blessed them with and would rather try and rationalize perverse beliefs of God. As far as I'm concerned they do not argue that 1 Samuel 15:2-3 is truthfully said of God because God did affirmed it, but do so simply because their vanity will not allow them to accept the fact that they were deceived by believing it in the first place.

The Moses I saw is not that fabricated one in the Torah:

IS IT GOD'S WORD?
By Joseph Wheless

SEGMENT FROM CHAPTER 5: THE RAPE OF MIDIAN

And when the meek and holy Man of God saw all the multitude of female captives alive, "Moses was wroth with the officers of the Host," and in his holy wrath he demanded, "Have ye saved all the women alive?" (Num. xxxi, 14-15). Then, in the name of his God, the Merciful, he gave this bloody order,- an order which if given by an Apache War-Chief crazed by Christian Fire-water, would have damned him and his Tribe and the "Great Spirit" of his Tribe to execration forever; - in the name of Yahveh Moses commanded: "Now, therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves" (v. 17) So records the Holy Word of Yahveh, writ by "holy men of old as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." So the Chosen of Yahveh, at Yahveh's holy command, to the eternal glory of God, straightway put into pious execution this holy command of their God, and in holy zeal butchered some 68,000 women and young children; then these "peculiar treasures unto Yahveh" took the remaining 32,000 tender young virgins to glut their hallowed lusts upon in God- ordained rape!" Verily, as the Psalmist sings "the commandment of Yahveh is pure, enlightening the eyes" (Ps. . And Yahveh got his fair share of the-accursed booty, human and animal alike (vv. 36-42).

Now if this maniac's deeds is something you admire, maybeit explains why you want to believe that God is that one of 1 Samuel 15:2-3.

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Old 12-20-2005, 03:15 AM   #4
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I believe each of us is our own priest. The sure path to Spiritual bondage is to be reliant upon what another claims of God.

The truth of God is within us, for God has written His laws upon our Spiritual heart. In that whatsoever is truthfully said of God shall not trouble us to believe it, for the Spirit of Truth affirms it. And whatsoever is not said truthfully of God will trouble us to believe it, for the Spirit of Truth does not affirm it.

As far as I am concerned it doesn't matter if one believes God is or is not, it is what one does that matters. The good will love good and the wicked will love evil, it is a matter of one's Spiritual nature.

I suppose Paul has given us the best guide to use when considering the matters of God:

"Finally brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there is any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." Philippians 4:8
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