[Mmzmptvk]

I noticed a lack of alien threads in this forum, which surprised me a little. Of course those little grey guys are the first thing that comes to my mind when someone mentions conspiracies. Before I started typing this out, I thought to myself, 'In ultra-conservative west Texas, surely no one would believe in life off this planet.' But I figured what the heck. This forum seems to have an intresting cross section of people. So I am curious, who out there believe we are being visited right now, and probabally have secret alien bases both here and on the dark side of the moon, and who thinks the earth is only 6,000 years old, and all aliens are actually physical manifestations of demons, or psychological delusions of mentally unstable people? Share, discuss, rant or preach.. I'm curious.

[Obebtetibre]

We have talked about aliens before. But here is my take. There is a lot of evidence of aliens visiting the Earth, but none of it is solid scientific evidence. So the lack of solid evidence plus the difficulties associated with space travel due to relativity make me inclined to believe that visitation is not occurring. I could be wrong, aliens could be here but are being careful not to leave evidence behind, but the simplest explanation is that there is no evidence because they are not here.

I don't think that people who believe aliens are here are delusional or mentally unstable, I just think they are wrong.

So, are there aliens somewhere out there? Mathematically it would seem probable. But here too we have a problem. Even our most conservative estimates would indicate that the galaxy should be teeming with technologically advanced civilizations, but we have not detected any sign of them so far. The fact that the galaxy seems to be devoid of interstellar communications, as far as we can tell, must be significant. We can only assume that we are the only ones at this particular time. I know it seems unlikely, but until we detect an unambiguously artificial signal from another star system, that is the conclusion we must draw.

[strmini]

I believe and it is a big seceret from us humans.

Have any of you ever lost several hours and do not know where they went? I have and it is not fun trying to figure out where I was during the lost time.

[Stengapsept]

Have any of you ever lost several hours and do not know where they went? I have and it is not fun trying to figure out where I was during the lost time.

Actually, yeah, I have... I somehow 'popped' from Seminole to Midland. Last thing I remember was pulling out of Seminole, and then BAM! I'm on 191. Best part was this.. I was only 16, and it was my first solo highway experience. At the time, I thought I had just fallen asleep at the wheel, but in retrospect, that seems unlikely as I am sitting here, alive, typeing this out.

Now let me ask you this, do you have any reaccuring, unexplainable wounds?

[HondasMenFox]

So-called "aliens" may be time-travelers from our future.

I've always heard that humans are evolving with larger brains. Well, these "aliens" are human-like in form, with oversized craniums and undersized bodies. Evolution is stressing the mental and lessening emphasis on the physical, as humans no longer are required to hunt to survive. We aren't slaying mammoths, moving boulders, or crossing glaciers to survive. Evermore, we THINK to survive.

Aliens who time travel are able to just pop in and pop out - no cross-galaxy excursions necessary. But why are they doing it? I think it's for their amusement, really. They no longer plunk down $8 for a movie; no, they plunk down their hard-earned $$$ to board time machines (flying saucers n' such) to watch their idiot ancestors. Can't say I blame'em, as I'm sure we are quite amusing.

Those who pay a premium get to probe and prod an actual ancestor specimen. They probably get a big hoot out of it! Why else would they be jamming things into our orifices? Heck, chances are they no longer have any orifices of their own, as all that kinda stuff (sh*t & sex, etc.) is no longer necessary to future humans.

[Heessduernbub]

So-called "aliens" may be time-travelers from our future.

I've always heard that humans are evolving with larger brains. Well, these "aliens" are human-like in form, with oversized craniums and undersized bodies. Evolution is stressing the mental and lessening emphasis on the physical, as humans no longer are required to hunt to survive. We aren't slaying mammoths, moving boulders, or crossing glaciers to survive. Evermore, we THINK to survive.

Aliens who time travel are able to just pop in and pop out - no cross-galaxy excursions necessary. But why are they doing it? I think it's for their amusement, really. They no longer plunk down $8 for a movie; no, they plunk down their hard-earned $$$ to board time machines (flying saucers n' such) to watch their idiot ancestors. Can't say I blame'em, as I'm sure we are quite amusing.

Those who pay a premium get to probe and prod an actual ancestor specimen. They probably get a big hoot out of it! Why else would they be jamming things into our orifices? Heck, chances are they no longer have any orifices of their own, as all that kinda stuff (sh*t & sex, etc.) is no longer necessary to future humans.

I disagree, for two reasons.

1. Time travel is almost certainly way more difficult that space travel. We could probably build a spacecraft that could cross the galaxy with current technology. It would just take a really, really, really, long time. Whereas with time travel we only a few ideas that might work and all of them require energy on scale that is impossible.

2. Human evolution does not seem to favor high intelligence anymore. It is a commonly observed phenomena that people of high intelligence have a much lower rate of reproduction that people of low intelligence. If anything, I think the movie Idiocracy is probably one of the best predictions of our evolutionary future.

[bahrain41]

I disagree, for two reasons.

Well, f*ck you and f*ck you, then!

No, no, no... not really!

1. Time travel is almost certainly way more difficult that space travel. We could probably build a spacecraft that could cross the galaxy with current technology. It would just take a really, really, really, long time. Whereas with time travel we only a few ideas that might work and all of them require energy on scale that is impossible.

Impossible? No way! Our future way-way-way out offspring are gonna conquer the impossible! They'll likely find some super energy fuel in some fungus growing in the half-acre of what's left of the Amazonian rainforest. Then a-time traveling they'll go.

2. Human evolution does not seem to favor high intelligence anymore. It is a commonly observed phenomena that people of high intelligence have a much lower rate of reproduction that people of low intelligence. If anything, I think the movie Idiocracy is probably one of the best predictions of our evolutionary future.

The big-brained uber-nerds of our future will have to adapt to non-screwing reproduction of some sort. I mean, many of the smartest folks I've ever known (myself excluded) have been quite homely. They were damn lucky if they EVER had the chance to reproduce! Therefore, as humans get smarter and bigger-brained, they'll no doubt get uglier. They'll all be so ugly - both males and females - that true boinking will go away completely. To reproduce, they'll have to develop the ultimate in "trick f*cking." That is, they'll have to go totally test tube or develop the ability to release projectile spores directed at one another or some such thing.

[Elitiachirl]

Raggedy Ann, yes I too have lost moments of time and my clothing came up missing as well (of course Tequila was involved...)

[sEe]

So-called "aliens" may be time-travelers from our future.

I've always heard that humans are evolving with larger brains. Well, these "aliens" are human-like in form, with oversized craniums and undersized bodies. Evolution is stressing the mental and lessening emphasis on the physical, as humans no longer are required to hunt to survive. We aren't slaying mammoths, moving boulders, or crossing glaciers to survive. Evermore, we THINK to survive.

Our bodies are a good design. You will notice that most alien species have two legs, two arms, two eyes, a head, etc...

Aliens who time travel are able to just pop in and pop out - no cross-galaxy excursions necessary. But why are they doing it? I think it's for their amusement, really. They no longer plunk down $8 for a movie; no, they plunk down their hard-earned $$$ to board time machines (flying saucers n' such) to watch their idiot ancestors. Can't say I blame'em, as I'm sure we are quite amusing.

I remember reading a article recently on a physicist who actually did some math and proved time travel was possible. Unfortunatly it would require an ammout of energy equal to every star in our galaxy going nova at the same time, or something insane like that.

Those who pay a premium get to probe and prod an actual ancestor specimen. They probably get a big hoot out of it! Why else would they be jamming things into our orifices? Heck, chances are they no longer have any orifices of their own, as all that kinda stuff (sh*t & sex, etc.) is no longer necessary to future humans.

Your thinking of the Greys.. Many people tend to agree that they aren't sentient beings so much as organic robots programmed by some other, ominous race. In other words, they don't do anything for kicks as they are incapable of feeling emotion. This is why most abductees report the Greys are cold and callus.

[Lxbsvksl]

So I am curious, who out there believe we are being visited right now,

Kaostick

I do. But they are not your kind of aliens.

[alias]

Eurasian is proof positive that extraterrestrials are already living among us.

BTW Eury, What planet are you from?

[BrifsGefel]

Shiner, Kaostick

May 13, June 13, July 13, September 13, October 13 are the 13th of 5 different months that span 2 or 3 seasons of the year.

What if EXACTLY 12:00 NOON of each of these 13th, east of a particular tree, lightning always struck just once exactly 12:00 noon no matter what the weather. Would that be just natural phenomena?

[thargeagsaf]

Kaostick

I do. But they are not your kind of aliens.

Do yours come in the form of demons?

Would that be just natural phenomena?

Possibly.. what is the ground made of in this paticular location?

[RokgroofeTeme]

In 1917, 3 shepherd children said that Mary appeared to them May 13 and that Mary said that she would appear again to them on the 13th of future months.

One thing they noticed is that seconds before her appearance, they saw a single bolt of lightning in the sky east of the apparition site; then a ball of cloud floated from the eastern sky towards them and settled above the holmoak tree with Mary inside the ball of cloud. Mary talked to them but only the girls Jacinta and Lucia could see or talk to or hear her. The boy, Franciso could not see nor talk to nor hear her because he stole a portuguese coin, something like america's ten cents. It was only in later months--- after praying many rosaries as instructed by Mary that Francisco was able to see and hear her.

June 13, July 13, September 13, October 13 Mary appeared again to the 3 children, AND ALWAYS PRECEEDED BY A SINGLE BOLT OF LIGHTNING IN THE EASTERN SKY. September 12, the crowd of onlookers was 40,000 people. October 13, the crowd was 70,000 people. They all waited to see if that single bolt of lightning will happen exactly at noon, 12:00 Portuguese Local time. AND THE LIGHTNING ALWAYS DID EXACTLY 12:00 NOON.

This is in the internet as well as in copyrighted and non-copyrighted very old writings, newspapers and books all over the world that go back to 1917 which was 90 years ago.

For your information, one of the things foretold by Mary to these 3 illiterate shepherd children was that Czarist Russia would turn atheist and would spread her errors to many countries in the world. This happened!!!! A number of you here who say that you are atheists are proof and fruits of this atheism. Another thing foretold by Mary is that if her requests are granted, Russia will return back to God. This is yet to be fulfilled. But the initial marks are there. Because sometime 1990, the eastern block russian satellite nations of the USSR seceeded from the USSR without the US firing a single missile. Later, states within the USSR also seceeded. Soon the state of Russia was all alone. THE MIGHTY USSR WAS NO MORE!!!!

[avavavava]

Eurasian, I really wish you would read my posts and answer my questions. Do you consider aliens to be the physical manifestation of demons, and what is the ground composed of around the magical lightning? If I was really intrested in the whole back story, I could very easily google it myself. Now either answer my questions, or stop preaching to me. Oh yeah, and did you just assumme I'm an atheist?

[PPActionnGuys]

Eurasian, I really wish you would read my posts and answer my questions. Do you consider aliens to be the physical manifestation of demons, and what is the ground composed of around the magical lightning? If I was really intrested in the whole back story, I could very easily google it myself. Now either answer my questions, or stop preaching to me. Oh yeah, and did you just assumme I'm an atheist?

Kaostick

The Virgin Mary is not an alien. The Virgin Mary is a human being. MARY WAS ASSUMED INTO HEAVEN BODY AND SOUL!!! HER BODY HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED INTO WHAT'S CALLED IN THE BIBLE, -- A GLORIFIED BODY!!!! IN THE CASE OF CHRIST'S GLORIFIED BODY, IT COULD PASS THROUGH WALLS AS THOUGH THE WALL WAS JUST AIR.

The UFO aliens you are talking about are one or more of these:
1. fabricated lies of the military complex
2. human freaks produced by the military complex
3. silicone/rubber puppets of the military complex operated by remote control
4. imagination of people who are victims of hypnosis from the military complex

5. The UFO are electromagnetic very simple images sent by transmissions of the military complex which are received by the brains of people. Brains of people are known by science to emit electomagnetic waves which they call brain waves. As a tv image, UFO's can be made to make angular or right angle turns in the sky at fantastic speeds. But that's because it is movie that the brains of observers receive from the electromagnetic transmissions of the military complex and not reality.

6. The UFO are actual military aircrafts flying in the sky. Like those sting-ray shaped us aircrafts used in the wars in Bosnia(?) Iraq(?)

7. For the UFOs that are military aircrafts flying at fantastic speeds and turns with accelerations that will kill a person inside the aircraft, those are robot planes!!!!

8. They are weather balloons. I've seen a number of these in the sky. I've also had the experience about 30 years ago of seeing the twinkling at night of a US spaceship flying in space. So unlike you, I can tell from the angular speed and height whether that light is a spaceship or a plane.

9 . From the bible, Satan and devils were angels evicted from heaven and cast down not into hell but to EARTH!!!! BUT THEY ARE NOT MATTER OR ENERGY.

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Kaostick. You are what's called a deist. You think God created the world and left it on autopilot and never interferes with it anymore. You are the kind who would say it does not matter if God is dead or alive because anyway God has nothing to do with the creation which He now no longer ever ever ever interferes anymore.

You are wrong because GOD SOMETIMES SUSPENDS NATURAL LAWS AND DOES WHAT WE RECOGNIZE AS MIRACLES LIKE THOSE EXACTLY 12:OO NOON SINGLE BOLT LIGHTNINGS IN THE FATIMA APPARITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE!!!!

[priordine]

Ahh heck.... I don't even know what I am. German/Sweedish... maybe partially Native American. Does it matter?

[johnbeller]

Originally, I was going to post pics and links for you, but then I realized it would be pointless to try to prove something to anyone that believes ins anything as blindly as you do. If you are intrested in what I have to say, you can do you own google searches, though I know you won't, because you already "know" you are right.

The Virgin Mary is not an alien

I didn't say she was..

The UFO aliens you are talking about are one or more of these:
1. fabricated lies of the military complex
2. human freaks produced by the military complex
3. silicone/rubber puppets of the military complex operated by remote control
4. imagination of people who are victims of hypnosis from the military complex

1. I assume you are talking about the governments disinformation campaign, right? This is one of the points you are partially right about. The government is definetly spreading around bad information, but it is comming in the form of documents and information, such as the MJ-12 documents. The government does NOT put on hoaxes. In other words, if you see a little grey man peeking through your windows, its not a FBI agent in a costume. And you better start praying, cause he definetly won't care about your god.

2. mmm This statement is just wrong. You may be thinking of the hybrids. Yes, thats right. Alien and human hybrids, just like how our entire race MIGHT have been started. (research Zecharia Sitchin to learn more.)

3. Now thats just silly. I actually laughed out loud when I read that.

4. This is one of the few statements you have said that might actually make sence. But I pose this question to you.. What exactly could the government hope to accomplish by hypnotizing the general population? And did you know this about hypnosis? It is IMPOSSIBLE to hypnotize someone that doesn't want to be hypnotised? Well, unless that person is incredibly weak minded. Of course, for that argument to be valid, you would have to call certain EMTs, Police, airline pilots, govt. officials, and even Jimmy Carter, Buzz Aldrin, and Ronald Regan (off the top of my head) weak minded. (the latter 3 all claimed to not only believe in UFOs and aliens, but also claimed to SEE UFOs...

5. The UFO are electromagnetic very simple images sent by transmissions of the military complex which are received by the brains of people. Brains of people are known by science to emit electomagnetic waves which they call brain waves. As a tv image, UFO's can be made to make angular or right angle turns in the sky at fantastic speeds. But that's because it is movie that the brains of observers receive from the electromagnetic transmissions of the military complex and not reality.

And this explains photos and videos of UFOs how exactly? Oh thats right, you must this that all photos and videos of UFOs are....

6. The UFO are actual military aircrafts flying in the sky. Like those sting-ray shaped us aircrafts used in the wars in Bosnia(?) Iraq(?)

I believe what you are refering to is the TR-3B, or the "Black Triangle." Yes, that is one is ours. Not much is known about it, but it is believed by some to be the replacement for the F-117, and is also believe to be some sort of gravity defying platform, though not many people have speculated on how this is possible as the laws of physics seem to prove that gravity cannot be defied. Maybe god is helping them out?

7. For the UFOs that are military aircrafts flying at fantastic speeds and turns with accelerations that will kill a person inside the aircraft, those are robot planes!!!!

First of all, there is no such this as a robot plane. Saying it is a robot means that it has a piece of software that controlls it with no human input, kinda like that crappy movie "Stealth." What you are refering to are UAVs, or Unmanned Arial Vehicles. I know full well that 10+ Gs will kill a person, however UAVs are still human controlled, and they still reply on non-exotic propultion. We do not have the technology to propel a vehicle from 0-mach10 in a few seconds. We do not have the materials on this planet that would stand up to that type of friction. I believe around mach7 the friction on the nose of any vehicle would be enough to melt even our most resilian composites. You know why Colombia exploded on reentery? Friction. Or are you saying that we have some sort of energy based shield that produces a vaccume inside of it that would reduce friction to 0 in hypersonic flight? That would not be a bad idea if it wasn't for the fact that it would also prevent air from flowing over the wings, and thus wouldn't produce lift. The fastest recognized aircraft is the SR-71 Blackbird, at mach 3.2+.. The X-15 more then doubled that, but it also could hardly be considered an aircraft, more of a rocket with wings. The whole point of this is this.. We do not have the exotic propulsion necessary for the type of high speed manuvering you are talking about.

8. They are weather balloons. I've seen a number of these in the sky. I've also had the experience about 30 years ago of seeing the twinkling at night of a US spaceship flying in space. So unlike you, I can tell from the angular speed and height whether that light is a spaceship or a plane.

Actually, your just being ignorant, and by pretending to assume I can't tell the difference between a satallite and a UFO you are just trying to get under my skin, which your not. Yes, a lot of UFO reports are weather baloons, satellites, terrestial spacecraft, and even meteors. But I can certainly tell the difference between all the previously mentioned. With the execption of satellites and spacecraft. I need a telescope to tell the difference between those.

9 . From the bible, Satan and devils were angels evicted from heaven and cast down not into hell but to EARTH!!!! BUT THEY ARE NOT MATTER OR ENERGY.

If they are not made of up matter or energy, then what are they made up of, magic spirit particles?

Kaostick. You are what's called a deist. You think God created the world and left it on autopilot and never interferes with it anymore. You are the kind who would say it does not matter if God is dead or alive because anyway God has nothing to do with the creation which He now no longer ever ever ever interferes anymore.

Don't pretend you know what I am. Your just going to make yourself look ignorant. You are basing your judgment of me on something I have already posted.. Go back, and read it again. You will see that I said "IF." That was not what I believe, and you won't have a name for what I believe.

You are wrong because GOD SOMETIMES SUSPENDS NATURAL LAWS AND DOES WHAT WE RECOGNIZE AS MIRACLES LIKE THOSE EXACTLY 12:OO NOON SINGLE BOLT LIGHTNINGS IN THE FATIMA APPARITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE!!!!

Again, just because you can't explain something doesn't mean it doesn't have a rational explanation. Old Faithful erupts regularly after all.. I'm sure at one point in time that was something god was doing, but know we know why it erupts regularly.