[Inenuedbabnor]

I posted this once before elsewhere, but what do you think? Do you think the government is hiding UFO technology? i.e. flys their own "UFO" based crafts around for experimental operations? Elaborate on your posts.

Depends on what you mean by UFO.

If you mean spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin then probably not.

In order to have such spacecraft you would have to have aliens. This brings up Fermi's paradox, which basically ask if there are other intelligent species out there why haven't we detected them?

Astronomers estimate that a space-faring civilization could colonize the entire galaxy in 5 million years. This is assuming that they can only travel at speeds much less than that of light. If they can travel at speeds near the speed of light then it would take much less time, say "only" 1 million years.

So given the long history of the galaxy surely if there were others out there they would have visited our star system by now. Even if they haven't we should be able to detect their presence from electromagnetic emissions.

So is it possible that given the 400 billion stars or so that are in our galaxy that only one (ours) harbors intelligent life?

I believe that must be the case. We probably are alone. How can this be?

The goldilocks principle states that we have intelligent life on Earth because the Earth just happens to be perfect for us. Consider:

The Earth has an usually large moon that stabilizes our planet's axis and provides a stable environment for the development of life. Without the moon we would not exist.

The Earth has a powerful magnetic field that protects us from solar wind. Mars does not have a magnetic field like this and is hostile to life. Without it the Earth would surely be lifeless as well.

Jupiter is large and in a perfect spot in the solar system to protect the inner planets from meteor and comet impacts. It doesn't stop them all but without Jupiter the Earth would be hit much more often than it is making higher life forms impossible.

In addition to these threats, there are many other ways for intelligent species to be wiped out.

nuclear warfare
super caldera volcanic eruption
hydrocarbon depletion without a replacement energy
dysgenic breeding
evironmental collapse
powerful solar storm
super nova explosion in a nearby star system
collision with another star system or black hole
rapid climate change or extreme climate changes (ie snowball Earth)
nanotechnological warfare
epidemic disease

Thats all I can think of right now but there are probably many more.

So my guess is that advanced civilizations simply do not last long enough to travel between the stars.

[Wheldcobchoto]

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[feeshyLew]

Ok Lee. I thought you meant alien spacecraft.

Who knows, what kind of cool stuff the military is working on now. I do remember seeing somewhere a story about an Air Force project to develop a flying disc, but sadly I didn't save the link. could be the same project that you mentioned above from the 1950's.

Anyway, you said that you believe that the government has aquired technology that is not of extra-terrestrial origin, could you say from whom you believe the technology was aquired?

I doubt that the government still uses area 51, or groom lake, for the purpose of testing experimental aircraft since the site is now widely known and satellite photos of the facility are readily available.

Many many good points discovered upon! I agree to a lot of this. Why would we be here otherwise. Our planet is the "supreme" planet in our solar system, and without the other planets, moons as well... we'd ultimately be doomed, or non existant for that matter.

Now back to my original theory. I believe the government has aquired technology that has enabled them to create "UFO-like" crafts... not necessarily something extraterrestrial. The government funded a project back in the 50's they ultimately haulted and bought the technology for a "floating disc". There has been no further mention to what they were looking for, or why they needed or wanted this primitive technology. Now that we are in the new millennium, there is no telling what the U.S. has that we don't know anything about... Much like the F-117. No one (the public) knew the aircraft even existed until it was suddenly unveiled during the first gulf war.

Another topic: AREA 51

Who knows what is being tested there... most all of the missions are done at night when we're sleeping. The aircrafts or crafts are so well hidden, we wouldn't even know if it was happening. Even if you tried to fly an R/C plane close to this area, it would probably be shot down.

Further thoughts?

[Nicihntm]

Anyway, you said that you believe that the government has aquired technology that is not of extra-terrestrial origin, could you say from whom you believe the technology was aquired?

Well they certainly didn't aquire such technology from Russia or Korea for instance, so the only other alternative would be that it has come from regions unknown, specifically extraterrestrial. Now how or when is another story. Of course we're all familiar with the famous Roswell, New Mexico incident. Fact or fiction? One will likely never know. But could it have been possible for the government to salvage alien technology from this or other similar crash sites? I would have to say yes, it is very possible. There is documentation that some of the UFO sightings continuously over specific 3rd world countries is believed to be experimental operations by the US goverment. Supposedly they are using these areas in South America for testing in the event that something catastrophic would occour, respectfully. Almost like using the included population as gophers, if you will.

As far as Area 51 is concerned, you are most likely correct. They probably don't do much "secrative testing" there anymore. I would be willing to bet it's at a new facility, which I cannot remember, AREA something, and using AREA 51 for a decoy.

[Aalupalak]

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