[Stacypettlerr]

lrdaltor,
do i know u?

[Solo3uc4]

"Machiavelli and Management" is a book by 'Anthony Jay', which purports to describe how a corporate management is in reality an exercise of Machiavellian royal/military strategies and tactics/intrigues, with no holds barred, no honesty in the ultimate sense, where conquest of rivals and enemies in the pursuit of power (getting to the top thru maneuvers)admits of only ends as of sense, and not the morality or ethics of the methods employed for attaining the objecives. Have you exec guys read that one? I did, buying it for just Rs.15 a decade ago while in India. In war, ends justify means, though post facto explanations are contrived by the brainy advisers to show that "fair" methods were only adopted. Any activity on the mundane plane, in the final analysis,can be argued as just disguised means - "counterfuges and camouflages" -of improving one's own self interests, not just the military activity!

[Dr. Shon Thomson]

bj,you are alive..

[Karpattaisp]

Hi Venki,
Thanx 4 quick response.
And gr8 links.
1 more help.

Iz there ne site where I can read Business applications of these gr8 books on war or strategies.

[egexgfczc]

Amit,

Book of 5 Rings (Go Rin No Sho)by Miyamoto Musashi
http://www.samurai.com/5rings/

Here are a few links for Machiavelli's 'The Prince'.
http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm
http://www.orst.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/prince/prince_contents.html
http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Nicol...li/The_Prince/

[b7RKli4l]

Traveller,

Since you listed The Prince by Machiavelli as book about warfare, I presume your connotation is a little wider encompassing statecraft rather than just warfare.

So I will include other works like,

-The Republic by Plato

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...975400-8656610

-The Analects of Confucius in parts of which he deals with the role of the state and the duty of the Kings also.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-1975400-8656610

Of course we have any number of works in India in which the role of a good King and state are mentioned, icluding the Thirukural.

[sasaderesada]

Arthashastra by Chanakya aka Kautilya may also qualify as a treatise on Rajathanthiram.

[Elisabetxxx]

There is another Chinese book called, 'Secret Art of War - The 36 Strategems'.

This was compiled about 400 years ago by an unknown author. During the end part of the Ming period.

But it was from older works.

That work must have been around at least 1500 years ago.

It was published in 1941 by the Xinghua Printing House in Chengdu, Sichuan.

The uniqueness about the Secret War lies in the fact that emphasise a lot on deception as an important military art.

It deals more with deception, sabotage, subterfuge, hidden tactics, etc.

If you any of you is interested, let me know.

I will put up a summarised review about that book.

Otherwise I can do something else more useful.

[Ehlgamxf]

dear friends where can I find the details of the Battle of Tarain which has been described by the dairiyist of Mohammed of Ghaur. Please give me a mail

sujoy_personal@yahoo.co.in

[freflellalafe]

36 chinese strategies or something similar.
Try the unorthodox warrior by thomas cleary? this is a translation of more military strategy from japan/china. The campaigns of Napoleon by David Chandler.

Applications to business are merely gimmicks to make more $.

[zueqhbyhp]

The BEST military treatise and earliest western, is On Cavalry Commander (Ipparhikos) by Xenophon. It is NOT a history with strategisist's input, as Thucidydes' work and it goes far beyond caVAlry matters, though viwed by thwe aspect of the Cavalry commander. Circa 360 BC. A "novelish"-fictious treatise is Kyropedia, of the same author