[Paul Bunyan]

Our Laws Suck when it come to Islam & Terrorism.

They want the UK to be an Islamic state
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6031.4420.0.0

Muslim extremists on the streets of England are taunting British troops returning from Iraq with messages such as: “British soldiers … murderers … rapists … not heroes,” the Telegraph.co.uk reported yesterday. A Muslim preacher staged a demonstration in Luton as returning soldiers paraded through the British town after serving an exhausting tour of duty in Iraq. When locals reacted to the taunting by the Muslim group—which carried signs such as “Butchers of Basra,” “murderers” and “baby-killers”—police cordoned off the protesters—for their own protection. Moreover, since that demonstration, Muslim preachers have continued to spout their vilification of Britain’s soldiers on the streets of Luton. No effort, apparently, has been made on the part of authorities to stop them.

The Sunday Telegraph spoke to the protestors and reported that some

"were born in the UK to parents who came from countries including Pakistan, Bangladesh and Ghana. Others moved to the UK when they were babies or toddlers.

They were brought up and educated in England but, although many live on benefits, they admit their loyalty is not to this country but to Islam. They want the UK to be an Islamic state, with sharia law and women in burkas.

Abu Abdullah, 30, an IT consultant who came to Britain when he was 7, said he left school at 12 and began “Islamic studies.”

He said: “I live here not as a British citizen but as a Muslim living in Britain. I pay tax and I have the right to speak out, to argue for an alternative way of life.” …
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6031.4420.0.0

[tgs]

I'd disagree, Aviva - with the death penalty, that is. I have no idea whether the majority of British people would like to see it come back. Personally, I find it barbaric. It's always struck me as strange that the State takes a life to illustrate that it is wrong to take a life.

We've got it plain wrong with some that were hanged (e.g. Timothy Evans) and there's even some doubt over Dr Crippen now, isn't there? To say nothing of Edith Evans and Derek Bentley. Neither of whom killed anyone but were hanged anyway because of some judge's notion of making an example of them.

There have also been too many who have been wrongly convicted and subsequently released. Several women who have been accused of killing their children, like Sally Clark, would have been murdered by the state where in fact, the so-called experts in their cases - like Dr Roy Meadows - were the ones who screwed up. There are numerous cases where faulty evidence at the trial has meant the subsequent release of those who would have qualified for the death penalty if we'd had it.

Sutcliffe was schizophrenic so he wouldn't have been hanged - although he might a few decades ago. As for the others, I honestly don't think life inside is as easy as you think. Prisoners have their own code of ethics and seem to apply it.

Awful thing - I hope we never, ever bring it back.

I know you're talking about a specific crime, but I wouldn't want to see it come back even if someone topped the Queen.

[TorryJens]

We tend to screw it up, a lot.