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**Beerinkol** · 06-20-2010, 09:31 PM

What do you think the other referees are going to do?

**Raj_Copi_Jin** · 06-20-2010, 10:24 PM

We thought the same 4 years ago when they cheated to get a penalty against australia.

But they went on to win the tournament.

**9mm_fan** · 06-20-2010, 10:38 PM

wat did dey act? ...

**softy54534** · 06-21-2010, 12:57 AM

Catch no ball, lol

**Lillie_Steins** · 06-21-2010, 02:22 AM

Come to think of it, you are right. Its really bad this time. I can see the referee realised that something was amiss. In the 2nd half the acting switched to another fullback.

We thought the same 4 years ago when they cheated to get a penalty against australia.

But they went on to win the tournament.

**MannoFr** · 06-21-2010, 02:43 AM

We thought the same 4 years ago when they cheated to get a penalty against australia.

But they went on to win the tournament.

They didn't cheat. They acted. It was invented by Diego Maradona in World Cup 1990. Opponent touch you, you just fallover. Let the referee decide. That was because he cheated successfully in World Cup 1986, handball to goal and the referee decided a valid goal in favour of him.

You see, acting is exaggerating the effect a physical contact. Physical contact by itself of course cannot be a foul in a contact sport like football. It's excessive or violent force that constitutes a foul.

The actor commits no foul but tries to maximise the chance of getting a free-kick or penalty by dramatisation. This Italy penalty against NZ just now was such a case, acting not amounting to cheating, so was that against Australia four years ago. What would amount to cheating is no contact but pretending there's contact and fallover. That's known as diving, an yellow-cardable offence if spotted and read as so by the referee.

**Peptobismol** · 06-21-2010, 10:03 AM

why did Fifa and/or the referring federation still refuse to use video aided solution in the game?

they can use a similar system in the states whereby the coaches would have 2 chances to use in a ref-contest decision. otherwise, most of the time, that human ref will be able to carry on as he is. with minimum disruption to the game.

**MannoFr** · 06-21-2010, 12:48 PM

Agree with you. Now the Ivory Coast is also in it.

why did Fifa and/or the referring federation still refuse to use video aided solution in the game?

they can use a similar system in the states whereby the coaches would have 2 chances to use in a ref-contest decision. otherwise, most of the time, that human ref will be able to carry on as he is. with minimum disruption to the game.

**PhillipHer** · 06-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Agree with you. Now the Ivory Coast is also in it.

Indeed, and at least Ghana would have a red card , or Harry won't be red carded.

06-20-2010, 09:31 PM	#1
Beerinkol Join Date Dec 2006 Posts 5,268 Senior Member	Italians will pay the prize for "acting" in coming rounds What do you think the other referees are going to do? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Raj_Copi_Jin Join Date Oct 2005 Age 48 Posts 4,533 Senior Member	We thought the same 4 years ago when they cheated to get a penalty against australia. But they went on to win the tournament. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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9mm_fan Join Date May 2007 Age 54 Posts 5,191 Senior Member	wat did dey act? ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	Catch no ball, lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-21-2010, 02:22 AM	#5
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	Come to think of it, you are right. Its really bad this time. I can see the referee realised that something was amiss. In the 2nd half the acting switched to another fullback. We thought the same 4 years ago when they cheated to get a penalty against australia. But they went on to win the tournament. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-21-2010, 02:43 AM	#6
MannoFr Join Date Mar 2007 Posts 4,451 Senior Member	We thought the same 4 years ago when they cheated to get a penalty against australia. But they went on to win the tournament. They didn't cheat. They acted. It was invented by Diego Maradona in World Cup 1990. Opponent touch you, you just fallover. Let the referee decide. That was because he cheated successfully in World Cup 1986, handball to goal and the referee decided a valid goal in favour of him. You see, acting is exaggerating the effect a physical contact. Physical contact by itself of course cannot be a foul in a contact sport like football. It's excessive or violent force that constitutes a foul. The actor commits no foul but tries to maximise the chance of getting a free-kick or penalty by dramatisation. This Italy penalty against NZ just now was such a case, acting not amounting to cheating, so was that against Australia four years ago. What would amount to cheating is no contact but pretending there's contact and fallover. That's known as diving, an yellow-cardable offence if spotted and read as so by the referee. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-21-2010, 10:03 AM	#7
Peptobismol Join Date Oct 2005 Age 58 Posts 4,386 Senior Member	why did Fifa and/or the referring federation still refuse to use video aided solution in the game? they can use a similar system in the states whereby the coaches would have 2 chances to use in a ref-contest decision. otherwise, most of the time, that human ref will be able to carry on as he is. with minimum disruption to the game. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-21-2010, 12:48 PM	#8
MannoFr Join Date Mar 2007 Posts 4,451 Senior Member	Agree with you. Now the Ivory Coast is also in it. why did Fifa and/or the referring federation still refuse to use video aided solution in the game? they can use a similar system in the states whereby the coaches would have 2 chances to use in a ref-contest decision. otherwise, most of the time, that human ref will be able to carry on as he is. with minimum disruption to the game. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-21-2010, 01:34 PM	#9
PhillipHer Join Date Jun 2008 Age 58 Posts 4,481 Senior Member	Agree with you. Now the Ivory Coast is also in it. Indeed, and at least Ghana would have a red card , or Harry won't be red carded. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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