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Old 04-10-2010, 12:24 AM   #21
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Argh, I clicked view post and now i feel compelled to respond.
BK, I know you can't read, but part of me still deep down wishes you could actually see five words and read the same five words so here it is again:

BY THE TIME HE FLIPPED, THE DEMS ALREADY HAD THE VOTES!
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:49 AM   #22
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Argh, I clicked view post and now i feel compelled to respond.
BK, I know you can't read, but part of me still deep down wishes you could actually see five words and read the same five words so here it is again:

BY THE TIME HE FLIPPED, THE DEMS ALREADY HAD THE VOTES!
In other words, he had no reason to do it, other than the bribe on the table?
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:49 AM   #23
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The vote totals don't make that statement as clear as you wish it to be.
So, it's possible I'm wrong, but Ben still totally failed to read what I said, hence my anger.
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:53 AM   #24
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The subsidy money by law (in the bill even before Stupak's grandstanding) could not be used at all to subsidize abortion coverage. People had to pay for that out of their own pocket. If you want to claim a subsidy in one place subsidizes another then you can use that argument against just about EVERY tax credit and subsidy in any industry in the country. The fact that the law says no Federal money can be spent on those items should be good enough but if people want to spend their own money then they can. It's very simple really.
What kind of person would pay extra for abortion insurance?
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:45 PM   #25
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Someone who wants to be covered for reproductive health? Really it should be included as part of EVERYTHING health plan. The government should specify a certain minimum coverage and then require all health insurance companies to meet the requirements. Don't like it? Tough, do it or go out of business.
Oh and then mandate insurance purchase? How is that essentially different from raising taxes and government funding abortion? It does the same thing.
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:41 PM   #26
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Naw, there will be no slaughter. The Dems will lose seats but they will mostly be red seats Dems captured i 2006 and 2008 which will revert back to their usual red status now that people's anger about Bush has faded. Repugs will probably even pick up a few swing seats as people tend to vote against the President's party in off year elections but most of the seats are so gerrymandered they won't be lost. I predict Democrats still maintain control of both houses as there just aren't enough competitive districts up for election.
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:12 AM   #27
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You seem to be suggesting that MEN be covered for abortion.
If men and women buy the same coverage, then men pay part of the cost, right? Makes sense seeing how men help create the reason for abortions.

edit: oh and since everyone shares the burden of paying for the iraq war, I don't see why people shouldn't be forced to share the burden of paying for abortions, if the majority agrees to that.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:11 AM   #28
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I know they're not keen on it. That's why taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay for the murder of Iraqi civilians.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:22 AM   #29
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If men and women buy the same coverage, then men pay part of the cost, right? Makes sense seeing how men help create the reason for abortions. Maybe some men do. Why would I pay for other people to kill their children? Makes no sense.
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