[dhYTvlAv]

I'm sorry.

[Bill-Watson]

I'm sorry.

Man, I live in Ottawa.

[PoideAdelereX]

Yes. It's painful enough without having to deal with Quebec in any way, shape, or form.

[farmarrl]

OK. I got the offer. It's pretty good and tempting. I might take it.

[kilibry]

Go Team CSeries

[nikolapegayyyaasss]

I take it that you're doing aerospace work rather than infrastructure work?

What is your background/degree?

It's actually IT work. Application support for SAP.

[Draftcasino.com]

I always make sure to say "Sap" instead of "S.A.P.". If they are too lazy to put the dots in there I'm to lazy to pronounce it right.

[kasandrasikl]

Why be loyal to a company that isn't loyal to you?

On that note, I'm opening a small office supply store online.

[Diwokfkq]

Depends on the location.

[Hoglaunccoolf]

Before the hire is a totally different matter and provides more wiggle room.

And to your point Kontiki, my job as a manager is to provide services for the least amount of money. But more importantly, if I'm paying someone less, then it's easier to give them bigger and more frequent raises/promotions which make employees feel more appreciated. If an employee gets a raise by blackmailing you, they don't get the feeling of being appreciated.

[tussinelde]

It just makes them a target for payback down the road.
The only thing worse for a manager than being blackmailed is to have to buckle under to it.

[bapimporb]

Don't get me wrong, I have supported many of my workers that got (or were trying to get a better offer than I could provide) But these discussions are best done prior. I.E. I'm looking for a higher position in another area of the company. If you see me attaining the higher position here in the future, I'm willing to stick it out. Come off much better than If you don't give me a raise now I'm out of here in two weeks. I know that company loyalty isn't what it was but personal loyalty between boss and employee is still a very valuable asset. I do everything I can to assist my employees in personal growth. Unfortunately sometimes I can't do enough and they have to move on. If you support that, those that stay behind will realize that you're doing the best you can (within the constraints)

So yes, I do take it personally when out of the blue someone comes up and says now or bye. I Should already be aware of the situation if my employee was treating me like I try to treat them. I know it sounds a bit old fashioned but I you had ever worked for me, it might be easier to understand. So yes, I consider it blackmail.

And As I mentioned previously, there have been times when there was no bona fide offer.

[chuecafressds]

Normally I would agree with you. I'd like to think I have a different relationship with my employees. I generally have the highest retention rate in whatever company I work for so maybe my strategy isn't a bad one. I am old school. This has hurt me promotion wise in places but at this point in my career, it doesn't concern me anymore. In a few years I'll be on a golf course in Florida. (with a smaller list than most of how many people I had to sacrifice for my own advancement) It would be nice not to have a conscience.

[sonsayx]

You didn't work for CGI before, did you?

[hopertveyk]

Good God. I'm so sorry.

[itsmycock]

I have to deal with CGI employees and management on a daily basis and the ineptitude across the board is staggering.

[shashaffff]

Bombardier has its headquarters on Rene-Levesque downtown and has a major plant in Saint-Laurent (the suburb) about a two minute walk from my mother-in-law's house.

There are also several smaller locations around and off the island.

As somebody doing infotech work I'd assume Rich's job would be at the downtown location, but I could be wrong.

[inilbowly]

Kitty: does your wife have any sisters?

What?