[cwgwowcom]

Welsh cos they can sing.

[MiniBoy]

All the good Welshmen are already dead, so I'd choose the latter.

[MpNelQTU]

good Welshmen

[Abaronos]

And where's the poll anyway...?

[ketNavatutt]

It's all been downhill since Lewellyn Fawr.

Aren't the Welsh dead inside anyway? I would think so, given that they all know they haven't done anything worthwhile since giving mild fits to Edward I, who ended up thrashing them anyway.

Llywelyn's son was a **** by deliberately going out of his was to antagonise Edward and getting the whole nation ****ed as a consequence.

You missed out Owain Glyndwr. Who incidentally was only defeated by a Welshman (Henry V).

Elizabeth I's virginity has a lot to answer for...

[StethyEntinic]

I used to know someone who was Welsh but then he got better.

[kasandrasikl]

The Welsh should be killed just to save the virtue of all those poor sheep.

[Amirmsheesk]

Possibly, but we don't actually know that do we...?

The English subjugation of Wales was a foregone conclusion since the time of Lewellyn Fawr. It was just a matter of which English king was going to get it done.

Born in Wales, therefore Welsh.

Monmouth Castle had been held by the English since the mid-13th century. This is like saying Andrew Jackson was a Waxhaws Indian because he happened to be born on land they once owned.

She was the last of the Tudors, of course... Of course, I'm just not sure what your initial statement is supposed to mean.

[Tic Tac Took]

The English subjugation of Wales was a foregone conclusion since the time of Lewellyn Fawr. It was just a matter of which English king was going to get it done.

Possibly, who knows. Imagine if, for example, Llywelyn waited until Edward's difficulties with Scotland before getting all uppity?

Also, Glyndwr came out of nowhere and 1405, with his alliance with the French could have been so different if there had actually been a battle at Worcester...

Monmouth Castle had been held by the English since the mid-13th century. This is like saying Andrew Jackson was a Waxhaws Indian because he happened to be born on land they once owned. Still Welsh...

Of course, I'm just not sure what your initial statement is supposed to mean. TUDOR. Harri Tudur (aka Henry VII) was the Welsh victor at the battle of Bosworth Field over Richard III and seized the English throne by right of conquest.

Consequently Henry VIII and Elizabeth I are also Welsh - hence she had a lot to answer for by not leaving any heirs...

[k1ePRlda]

Possibly, who knows. Imagine if, for example, Llywelyn waited until Edward's difficulties with Scotland before getting all uppity?

It would have delayed the inevitable? England wasn't going to let Wales remain independent, simple as that. And it had the resources that Wales could never muster.

Still Welsh...

If so, then this:

TUDOR. Harri Tudur (aka Henry VII) was the Welsh victor at the battle of Bosworth Field over Richard III and seized the English throne by right of conquest.

Consequently Henry VIII and Elizabeth I are also Welsh - hence she had a lot to answer for by not leaving any heirs... Is utter nonsense, since none of these people were born in Wales. Henry VII was only 1/4 Welsh, and the others even less so.

I know Welsh accomplishments are so sparse that you feel you must steal other country's monarchs, but really it's pathetic...

If anything, these examples are proof that the further one gets away from being Welsh, the more successful one will be.

[pirinosa]

Giving away fir trees is against govt policy?

[VemyhemiHef]

Either option has to be a 1000 times preferable to being English

Oooh, and where are you from with a name like that? Or is it just written backwards?

[freeringsf]

Oooh, and where are you from with a name like that? Or is it just written backwards?

Wherever they are they are using the preferred language.