[Blolover11]

I find it very amusing that anyone would call Dick-derivative films cyberpunk. He was basically doing character studies in alternative universes/realities. The man died in '82, right about when cyberpunk was starting.

That said, he did a lot of "one small man in a big weird world" settings, which have come to be pretty standard cyberpunk milieu... And it's also true that film versions of Dick's work stray pretty far from his narrative lines.

[Penisvergroesserung]

I suppose I should also include JG Ballard, but I'm not a huge fan of his writing (though I do acknowledge how influential it was)

[KitRittyTug]

"I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" is perhaps the greatest short short sci fi story ever written.

[bobibnoxx]

--"Are there any good cyberpunkish movies out there other than Blade Runner?"

Not much.

It's post-apocalyptic rather than cyberpunk, but A Boy and his Dog is worth a watch. Brazil isn't heavy on the sci-fi, but it's very much in the spirit of cyberpunk.

Do check out Max Headroom if you get the chance. Even fewer live action TV series that fit the genre.

--"Have you looked at Ghost In The Shell? "

Unless you're fond of Mamoru Oshii's style, people seem to prefer the TV series to the movies. Personally, I prefer Oshii's stuff, but that's me.

--"Ergo Proxy"

Wouldn't be my first choice, although it is the right vein. More style than substance, I feel.

Serial Experiments Lain is pretty much the cyberpunk standard-setter for anime series, though.

Texhnolyze is another good one (Chiaki Konaka loves doing cyberpunk), although it's as much Roman tragedy as it is cyberpunk. The first episode is very spare of dialogue, but it isn't that way throughout the series, so don't let that bother you.

Bubblegum Crisis is the old classic, but stick with the original and pretend Tokyo 2040 never happened (or at least that they have nothing to do with one another, since, well, practically they don't).

It's probably not gritty enough for you, but Dennou Coil is excellent. It's more an early-stage cyberpunk setting, where things are just getting started, and the kids have adapted to the tech.

The part of Battle Angel that got animated is too short to do it justice, but Cameron is supposedly going to do a live-action adaptation of the Motorball arc. Whether or not this is something to look forward to is another question.

Oh, and an upcoming anime to consider is Despera. It's another Chiaki/ABe collaboration, although it sounds like it'll be more steampunk than cyberpunk.

Edit:

In terms of what you're looking for, Bubblegum Crisis (and the Bubblegum Crash sequel) are the closest match. Serial Experiments Lain isn't too far behind, but is definitely lighter on the action. Texhnolyze is as much in the post/transhuman style (and a rather creepy take on it) as cyberpunk, but since that's in your interest range, it'd be a good choice.

Wraith
"I just abandoned my body. I still live here..."
-- Serial Experiments: Lain

[intisgunkas]

Wraith

[TimoDassss]

I enjoyed Dark City

Very good combination of film noir themes and style and science fiction.

Not directed by a Hollywood hack, which is probably why it was enjoyable.

[Terinalo]

All you need is Stargate. Great stories, characters and dialogues.

[BopeDolaNeone]

Would "Snow Crash" and "The Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson be classified as cyberpunk?


I just started The Diamond Age a few days ago, and thus far it is, far and away, my favorite Stephenson novel (having read Cryptonomicon, all of the Baroque Cycle, Snow Crash, and Anathem thus far).

[Twelearly]

I'm sorry, but you're simply wrong. That's not Transhumanist philosophy. Read some of their literature some day instead of just listening to their wackos. Transhumanists want to eliminate death, because they believe it is a "disease," they want humans to adapt to alien environments, and they want humans to achieve "higher" levels of consciousness, whatever that means. What you're talking about is belief in the technological singularity, which is not universal amongst transhumanists, and which does not necessarily include cataclysmically fatal events.

Transhumanism: religion for the deophobic.

SP

[obHQNsY2]

"The Diamond Age" could be considered "postcyberpunk" (a label I hate, BTW) but Snow Crash is definitely cyberpunk.

[Oberjej]

Snow Crash led the way for the postcyberpunk, but it requires more than just satire of cyberpunk. Postcyberpunk involves an essentially positive view of the way technology will transform our society.

Snow Crash involves a dystopian future. The Diamond Age doesn't involve a utopian one, but one that is still better than the present.

And then Stephenson wrote Cryptonomicon so as to be completely unclassifiable

[exchpaypalgold]

Not another word, Jon.

[mikeyyuiok]

From what I understand, Snow Crash is considered postcyberpunk because of its widespread satirization of cyberpunk tropes. I mean, come on, the main character is named Hiro Protagonist, runs around with a katana, and delivers pizza.

Yes, and the antagonist is a crazed Aleut with a harpoon, a hydrogen bomb in the sidecar of his motorcycle and the words "POOR IMPULSE CONTROL" tattooed on his forehead. It doesn't matter if it manages to be self-satirical. It's still firmly cyberpunk.

[mtvlover571]

I liked Diamond Age and Snow Crash... but his endings are terrible.

JM

What loin said.

[TheBestCheapestOEM]

Yes, I am.