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Old 06-24-2009, 04:06 AM   #1
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Default Programming books are very crappy
I keep exactly one book on my desk at work.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:20 AM   #2
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What's that?
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:23 AM   #3
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There's really no point to learning C++ or languages like it from a book. The internet's a far better resource. The basics are too easy for a book, and the more advanced issues are best discovered with practice and experience. Also, The C++ FAQ is the best C++ resource for 'gotchas' and 'aha' moments with C++ around.

Books are more useful in software development from a higher-level perspective. For instance, no real developer can be without the Design Patterns bible. Also, essential reading includes Code Complete, The Mythical Man-Month, and The Pragmatic Programmer. Any developer worth their salt will know of these books.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:48 AM   #4
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Asher, how the **** would a C programmer use design patterns?
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:20 AM   #5
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They would have to be a more competent C programmer than you evidently are.

C isn't widely used for software development. It's used sparingly in some embedded systems development only, and even that is transitioning to other languages. My comments were aimed towards more robust languages like C++, Java, C#, etc.
Who's to say that my pointer to a function which takes a pointer to an array of ten void pointers and returns a pointer to a function which takes an int and returns a pointer to a char array isn't the best way to do things?

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Old 06-24-2009, 07:30 AM   #6
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They would have to be a more competent C programmer than you evidently are.

C isn't widely used for software development. It's used sparingly in some embedded systems development only, and even that is transitioning to other languages. My comments were aimed towards more robust languages like C++, Java, C#, etc.
Linux kernel.
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:37 PM   #7
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Who's to say that my pointer to a function which takes a pointer to an array of ten void pointers and returns a pointer to a function which takes an int and returns a pointer to a char array isn't the best way to do things?

You just described the "C Design Pattern".
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:51 PM   #8
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My brother writes and modifies a ton of Fortran 77 programs (mech eng graduate work) that I am fortunate enough to assist him in, and the general programming skills of the engineering community are second only to physicists when it comes to hacky goodness.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:33 PM   #9
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This is a good programming book.

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Old 06-24-2009, 04:43 PM   #10
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They would have to be a more competent C programmer than you evidently are.

C isn't widely used for software development. It's used sparingly in some embedded systems development only, and even that is transitioning to other languages. My comments were aimed towards more robust languages like C++, Java, C#, etc.
Well, I'm not a С programmer, I'm a .NET 2.0 programmer (moved to consulting around the time 3.0 was released, so I have nfc about WPF, WCF, LINQ, etc ). I still maintain it is impossible to use something from the GoF book in C.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:27 PM   #11
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I rest my case.
Most Linux kernels are not embedded systems.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:54 PM   #12
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I didn't say installations.

However, you might be right if most of those are modified versions of the kernel.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:20 PM   #13
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You straight ****ers are horny ****ing perverts. Sexual deviants.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:29 PM   #14
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The problem is you straight ****ers don't have the grace and dignity of the homo people. You're all ****ing shameless horndogs.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:33 PM   #15
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Yeah, good quality programming books are few and far between. When I first learned C++, I learned it from a c++ book that pretty much taught c (which I hadn't known at the time), and mentioned objects as an afterthought in the last chapter (WTF?).

I've got The Stroustrup C++ book, which does have some good information in it, although I've used it more as a reference, and havent looked at it in a while. Also, I generally like the O'Reilly line of books (genenerally as references, though a few are good to read through. Their "By Example" books are useful, too, iirc).
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:47 PM   #16
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Yeah, good quality programming books are few and far between. When I first learned C++, I learned it from a c++ book that pretty much taught c (which I hadn't known at the time), and mentioned objects as an afterthought in the last chapter (WTF?).

I've got The Stroustrup C++ book, which does have some good information in it, although I've used it more as a reference, and havent looked at it in a while. Also, I generally like the O'Reilly line of books (genenerally as references, though a few are good to read through. Their "By Example" books are useful, too, iirc).
Can a moderator please delete this off-topic and frankly, offensive post?
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:52 PM   #17
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I am sexually frustrated.

Maybe I would be even if I wasn't.

I am trying to work on it though. (on not being a horny pervert)

JM
Are you trying to work on it by getting laid?
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:21 PM   #18
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Straight men are only ever partially sexually stimulated. There's a whole major sensory organ going unused.
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