[spravka.ua]

Drastic measure indeed, but probably worth it.

[heennaRaf]

Hmm, interesting question. On the one hand, obese people tend to have more health problems, therefore cost more for health insurance. On the other hand, obesity is not always 100% the obese person's fault, often it is a medical problem in itself. In those cases, the insurance should be paying for treatment, not charging more.

And on the the not 100% their fault thing: you take a group of people, and feed them the same diet, and have them undertake identical activities for a year, some will end up lighter, some will end up heavier. Doesn't mean that the heavier ones can't do anything to deal with their propensity for weight gain, and it doesn't mean the lighter ones can't make themselves fat by doing stupid stuff, but blaming obesity 100% on the person generally is incorrect.

Also this: Half of overweight adults may be healthy

[xsexymasterix]

Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you drive a car.
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you do sports.
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you live in the inner city.
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you ...

Most stupid thing I have ever heard.

[FalHaitle]

I think that it is a very poor idea to begin tieing health insurance rates to health factors. Certainly it's "fair", but any time I hear the word "fair" in politics I look a second time for who they're trying to screw out of something - as that's about the only time it's ever used.

Where this leads is, as Hueij notes, paying more for everything else; and it's not going to be EVERYTHING else, just the things they think they can make more money off of - and I have a feeling it's going to be inner city/poor rural focused. More in the inner city, more if you eat at McD's ...

[Galsteinbok]

Nationalised healthcare, free at the point of use

[Britfunclubs]

I think that it is a very poor idea to begin tying health insurance rates to health factors.

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[UMATURLIN]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Nationalised healthcare, free at the point of use An ounce of prevention...

[kertionderf]

Originally posted by Theben


An ounce of prevention... True, true, but if the threat of debilitating illness in later life doesn't work, financial incentives aren't...

[Battwenue]

What if you're underweigth, like all those models, it's a health risk too....

[Xxedxevh]

The best thing would be to cover everyone and then run public health campaigns to convince people to choose healthier lifestyles. The best thing would be to charge them more for insurance AND run public health campaigns.

[gabbaman]

Originally posted by BeBro
What about extra taxes for business which produces unhealthy stuff, like coke, burgers, bad tv shows or guns etc No, that is a bad idea

[Rexaviennatutr]

Since that didn't seem to stop some groups from charging more for smokers, go ahead, bring it on. Charge extra for anything that might be dangerous.

[gugqgbyzlp]

I think the best plan is to establish a national healthcare system and use tax incentives to promote healthy behavior. Then I think we should establish a program to force everyone to watch "Supersize Me"

[onlineslotetes]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Tell me who it is here that lives the perfect lifestyle. I really want to shake their hand. Good luck. If its really a 'must do' situation, I can meet you at the airport in Eugene and we could have a couple brewskies, do the handshake, and be on our ways.

[Ladbarbastirm]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
True, true, but if the threat of debilitating illness in later life doesn't work, financial incentives aren't... Of course they would. Immediate consequences are far more effective than distant ones.

edit: what Dauphin said.

[Mello]

Originally posted by Dauphin


I plan to take up smoking and living like an unhealthy slob when it comes to the assessment of my pension annuity. Then once I have that big chunky annuity I will switch back to my healthier lifestyle. So, erm, when are you going to switch to the healthier lifestyle in the first place?

[TCjwwhcY]

Originally posted by Barnabas


No, that is a bad idea Could we at least have insanely high taxes on bad tv shows? I could live with cheap burgers and guns then

[Maymayfor]

Originally posted by Hueij
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you drive a car.
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you do sports.
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you live in the inner city.
Poll: Paying more for health insurance if you ...

Most stupid thing I have ever heard. Yep. The purpose of any healthcare program should be to provide healthcare to the sick. In the U.S., our program is designed to maximize profits for the insurance companies.

[oronozopiy]

Originally posted by BeBro


Could we at least have insanely high taxes on bad tv shows? I could live with cheap burgers and guns then In America, we have the right to bear arms.
In Europe, they have the right to bare breasts.

[STYWOMBORGOSY]

Individual responsibility is what our side has been advocating all along.