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I guess Russia will wait for an authorization of the use of force by an UNSC resolution.

[TimoDass]

You are living in a fantasy world David.

[ordercigsnick]

Originally posted by David Floyd
More likely, they're scared to death they will GET an authorization of force, because all of their military equipment is rusted all to **** and is completely unusable Well, Caucasus is the place where our military equipment is definitely NOT rusted to ****. It has been well-oiled with the blood of Chechen babies.

What amuses me the most is the way Georgian military is portrayed in Russian news: a scary, brutal war machine. Let's see what Wikipedia says:


MBT
T-72B1- 59
T-72M - 75
T-72AB - 71
T-55AM -40

AIFV / APC
BMP-1 - 80
BMP-2 - 120
BTR-80 - 75
MT-LB - 64
BRDM-2 - 17
Otokar Cobra - 100

Artillery

Towed
2A36 Giatsint-B-12
2A65 Msta-B-18
2A18 (D-30)-120

Self-Propelled
2S7 Pion - 12
2S19 Msta-S - 3
2S3 Akatsiya - 26
VZ 77 Dana - 47

Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
M-87 Orkan - 4
RM-70 - 48
BM-21 Grad - 120
LAR-160- 15
M-63 Plamen – 12

Mortars
2B11 120mm - 240
M-38/43 120mm - 365
M75 120mm – 250


Yeah, right. Scary.

Anyway, Russia is not in a position to retaliate. The Georgians haven't attacked our territory yet, so launching an attack against Georgia would be an act of aggression. However, sending some Chechen batallions as "North Ossetian volunteers" would be fun.

[Fiipolera]

Speaking as a Ukrainian, if Russia invades and occupies Georgia, I hope it takes the same care with Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus too.


Power to the Soviets!

[ardsdelinq]

Can someone just nuke moscow so we are done with them ?

They seem to breeding themselves out of existance but that takes too long.

[Rx-Ultram]

Lenin and Stalin would approve of Russian takeover of Georgia, so more power to Russia.


Long live our forefathers!

[encumeterz]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Russia is such a lawless thug of a country. You whine when ethnic minorities try to split from your country but you encourage Russian gangsters to try to fake rebellions in neighboring countries. Says who? The one whose country bombed Yougoslavia to let Albanian gangsters declare independence? And at the same time whose country reject the right of South Osetians and Abkhazians to be independent too. F***ing hypocrite double talking biatches.
Without approval from the Washington D.C. Saakashvilii would never invaded South Osetia. You started that war, 'cause he is your pet frog.
As for blaming Russia encourages something, you just have no idea about the history of this conflict.

[Chooriwrocafn]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Russia is such a lawless thug of a country. You whine when ethnic minorities try to split from your country but you encourage Russian gangsters to try to fake rebellions in neighboring countries. Russians are not a monolithic peoples, they comprise of a multitude of ethnicities, most of them in the post-Soviet space or Soviet or Russian sphere of influence, even Iranians.

[Pedsshuth]

Originally posted by Propaganda
Just for clarification of my post above, there is no "ethnic minorities" in Russia; we are them and they are us. Just like everywhere else... In Fantasy World.

[fedelwet]

So you think Jewish ethnic makeup has no influence on Russian genealogy? Maybe in a Fantasy World...

By the way, I'm a Ukrainian Jew, but then who isn't one in Ukraine, huh?

[carletoxtrs]

Originally posted by C0ckney


it's funny how many of 'them' don't see it that way. Political differences drive many of these disputes.

[chuecfafresslds]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Are you an "American"?

[AntonioMQ]

The only real question is, does Georgia have everything it needs to prosecute this war effectively?

[nTDsD0aU]

Originally posted by Propaganda
Lenin and Stalin would approve of Russian takeover of Georgia, so more power to Russia.


Long live our forefathers! That about says it all, doesn't it?

[Info-phone]

Originally posted by Saras


Nice how you get mad when your plan to try and gradually annex territories doesn't work out all that smoothly. Peacekeepers shmeacekeepers.

Saakashvilli is bombarding South Osetian capital with its Grad MLRS.

Source?



as are most countries compared to Russia.




Hypocrites? Who? I hate all this anger between us. I remember, in Soviet times, neighbors were as family and were duly respected, regardless of occupation or nationality. I'd like to think there existed something positive in those days, no matter what our national differences. Maybe, I hope, we can recreate that experience someday on another level.

[Doctor-CTAC]

Originally posted by SlowwHand


That about says it all, doesn't it? I knew you'd show.

[Knqzjbmf]

Originally posted by Propaganda

I hate all this anger between us. I remember, in Soviet times, neighbors were as family and were duly respected, regardless of occupation or nationality. I'd like to think there existed something positive in those days, no matter what our national differences. Maybe, I hope, we can recreate that experience someday on another level. Bah! The Soviet Union was a crap hole which couldn't even give bread to its people or toilet paper so they could wipe their asses. Your "people" ran for the door the second they got a chance because it was repressive and life sucked so bad.

[GSgCGxsF]

Originally posted by Oerdin


There is a huge difference. Everyone other then Native Americans (Indians) came here from some where else and agreed to give up their old identities freely. That isn't so in Russia. Russian imperialists conquered their land by force and naturally some of them aren't so keen on being Russian and would prefer to maintain their own cultures.

You need to stop claiming that there are no minorities in Russia while claiming that every Russian minority in other countries gets to redraw the map for the benefit of greater Russia. You honestly don't understand the double standard here? You don't understand me.

By all of the above, I was implying that I liked the Soviet experience, maybe not its political adherent, but we could have made very good of its economic utility.

My fault, however, is in finding cultural, ethnic, and historical similarities with a wide array of nationalities and cultures.

I'd like to think that Russia, one day, can accept its whole self, rather than just a historical piece.

[DoctorWeryDolt]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Bah! The Soviet Union was a crap hole which couldn't even give bread to its people or toilet paper so they could wipe their asses. Your "people" ran for the door the second they got a chance because it was repressive and life sucked so bad. Do I need to explain the affects of "perestroika" to you, or are you being facetious?

[steerryGritly]

Originally posted by C0ckney


of course, however many of these political disputes are because of, or intertwined with, issues of nationalism and ethnic identity. that is to say, there are huge numbers of people in russia who are not russian and do not see themselves as such. to pretend otherwise helps no one in my view. In my view, globalization is, in part, to blame and the ressurgence of previously non-existent nationalisms can be seen as a defense mechanism, in response to the dominance of globalization. Do you agree?