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[casinobonbiner]

this is bad, but truth is Roma people should do something about their fellow men. It's not like things like this happen with no reason.

[k5wTvu9f]

1) It is still a stereotype even if the belief has proven true for the person holding that belief. Stereotypes applied to a race of people is racism. If applied by the state, then it is institutional racism.

2) Expressing racism should not be subject to the law. Enforcing racism should not be the law.

So, the sentence given for calling Roma thieves was stupid. Likewise, a law calling for the fingerprinting of all the people of only one minority group is both discriminatory and stupid. I find the court's statement to be proof of incompetence. But then "all Italian government officials are incompetent." This statement will raise the court's hackles, although many people have the personal experience to prove it.

[derinasderun]

Why do the victims have to prove racism is wrong? Why can't we demand that the discriminators prove that these fingerprints will do anything positive. I say fingerprint all children -- some will grow up to be bad, we might as well start their record as early as possible.

[chuecfafresslds]

Well believe it or not most Europeans do not like the state snooping in their personal lives but do like the welfare infrastructure that is provided. Personally I am sick of my government becoming more and more restrictive and security-driven but I think that our welfare state is, on the whole, a good thing.

[maxuilg]

But I must emphasise that the Roma from Romania are giving bad reputation for the Roma in general. I believe the ones that live in Poland for a long time are much more adapted to society. Bah, Edyta Gorniak, well-known polish singer (2nd place in Eurovision) is Roma.
So if You try, You can do it...

[DavidShreder]

Well, you know if they weren't actually all thieves this might be a terrible travesty of justice, but since they are... carry on then. Perhaps a final solution to the Roma problem in Europe might be found soon.

[DrKirkNoliss]

I posted this in the "And you thought the mayor of London was bad..." Thread.

[blackjackiisre]

kuci for actually reading articles.

[WrigleyMike]

Forcing gypsies to settle down and get a real job
Letting gypsies ride around the country in their caravans, stealing stuff

[DonnyKong]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Well believe it or not most Europeans do not like the state snooping in their personal lives but do like the welfare infrastructure that is provided.

[Rinkeliacasse]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Can we all just stop this "Roma" nonsense?

In Italy, Roma is the capital of the country. A 2000 y.o. city. Yeah, thread title threw me because of this.

Gypsies can go to hell, it's time for them to get into 2008, which means sending their kids to school, rather than forcing them to steal and selling them to old pedophiles. Reminds me of when I cleaned some gypsy trailers here in Memphis, TN. Some of the photos in there made me very uncomfortable.

For Christ's sake, I can't stand the sight of another pre-pubescent pregnant girl begging for money. Enough is enough. That's a feat.

[11Pecepebra]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Outside of far right-wing circlejerks, welfare isn't thought to be an invasion of privacy.

[Diandaplaipsy]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Look at your sig. That was the reason I was confused by his comment.

[Kissntell]

Originally posted by Theben

That reminds me, we need to do something about all these damn russians moving in to the Chicagoland area. Almost all of them have ties to the Russian mob. ****, try SoCal. All those Russians seem to have decided they didn't like the cold and so have now moved here where it is warm. The girls are hot so they're welcome but the guys look more like guidos then the Italian guidos.

[jurnalkduo]

^^^^

RACIST

[eliniaguilefp7m]

Datajack, Sorry mate, you know I meant gypsies, not Roma, and not Romanians. Got stuck with the naming convention set earlier

[peveballery]

What pisses me off about my government's actions is that they do nothing about Gypsies. A huge number of petty theft is unpunished. They are routinely stealing electricity and the government tolerates that because they don't want riots and other ugly scenes on their hands. Also gypsies are voters and they want to use their votes so they often receive favourable tretment.

[Injurnerona]

I can't beleive alot of the stuff I'm reading, you do know that Roma/Gypsies whatever have been the lowest of the low for centuries and that Hitler had a go at exterminating them.

If you swapped Roma for Jews there would be outrage

[allvideO]

but the difference is that modern Jews are settled people, often high-educated, and not that many of them tries to earn for their lives stealing money.
Oh, get over it. There is a problem with Roma. I do not claim they are genetically wrong, but that in their culture, or in their practice, doesn't see that much wrong in wronging others.