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Old 07-16-2008, 02:13 AM   #1
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Default Canada deports coward
I'd rather just send him to the front and tell him to hold the minesweeper ...
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:33 AM   #2
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I had a thread on this a while back and certain people here told me it wouldn't happen. Damnit, I'm always right.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:08 AM   #3
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:13 AM   #4
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Ben,

Did you know that this is the same court the Canadian "Star Chamber" decisions get appealed to?
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:22 AM   #5
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Has he been assassinated by teh evil bushitler?
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:32 AM   #6
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There's no state of war.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:49 AM   #7
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Mr. Long, who fled to Ontario in 2005, had signed up to join the U.S. Army in July, 2003. He believed at that time that his country was justified in going to war in Iraq, his lawyer Shepherd Moss said at the court hearing to halt the deportation. Mr. Long intended to train as a tank commander. “He wanted to go to defend his country,” Mr. Moss said.

His perspective changed while in training at the army base at Fort Knox. After hearing that weapons of mass destruction had not been found in Iraq, Mr. Long thought the U.S. had no reason for being at war. Also, he was troubled by evidence of abuse of Iraqi detainees that came out in May of 2004, Mr. Moss said.

Mr. Long concluded the abuse was systemic and condoned by the U.S. administration, Mr. Moss said. After some soul-searching, Mr. Long decided he would not go to Iraq and would not participate or be complicit in what he believed were war crimes, the lawyer said. A coward? *******
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:48 AM   #8
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Berz,

Why would he flee to Canada? If the worst he would suffer in the US is a dishonourable discharge, why didn't he just desert and then they would kick him out?
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:04 AM   #9
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Berz,

Why would he flee to Canada? If the worst he would suffer in the US is a dishonourable discharge, why didn't he just desert and then they would kick him out? Because a Dishonorable discharge would basically ruin you for life.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:35 AM   #10
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As opposed to fleeing to Canada and NOT getting deported back.

Duh.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:59 AM   #11
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Why would he flee to Canada? If the worst he would suffer in the US is a dishonourable discharge, why didn't he just desert and then they would kick him out? Dont know and I dont know what the worst could be, but he aint a coward.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:40 AM   #12
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Canada does have some immigration controls with the US, doesn't it? Would they be eager to accept a felon?
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:15 AM   #13
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Dont know and I dont know what the worst could be, but he aint a coward. He certainly is. Just like certain hippies don't understand, if you want to cross a legal system fine, just don't whine when the legal consequenses punch you in the face. In fact, you should be proud you are subjected to the expected consequences of your actions. If you think you are in the right, your consequences should be a boon to your cause, no?

Even if you think this guy is not a coward for deserting, he is still a coward for not facing the consequences of his supposedly right decision.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:38 AM   #14
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Considering he was right about the war crimes charge, this is a poor decision on the part of the Canadians.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:14 AM   #15
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And one of the perks of getting a job when your boss turns out to be a slimeball is that you can walk away from it.

Let him go, with neither honorable nor dishonorable discharge. He still wasted a good chunk of his youth, if that makes you happy.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:26 AM   #16
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I think DD agrees with you.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:03 AM   #17
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Originally posted by notyoueither
From what I've heard, most of these guys could not be described as felons. Uh, I meant "felon" in the sense of "someone who has been convicted of a felony". I'd assume sure that's the definition the Canadian government uses too...
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:29 AM   #18
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... or maybe they would have less interest in the plight of some jobless Yank who can't serve as a poster child for an anti-war campaign.

I don't know. I just wonder.
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