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Old 06-14-2008, 01:58 AM   #1
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Old 06-14-2008, 02:10 AM   #2
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Old 06-14-2008, 02:31 AM   #3
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MacKenzie is a **** of the first order. Always has been. Always will be. I hope Davis crushes him.
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:28 PM   #4
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I don't believe he has honest motives, but I hope that such actions do lead to a repeal.
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:48 PM   #5
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I think this is a fantastic move by Davies, let's hope that the Sun gets a total clobbering. With any luck it'll stiffen the spine of the Lib Dems as well.
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Old 06-14-2008, 01:57 PM   #6
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Oh balls. The Tories spent decades campaigning for greater police powers and were the party that gave us internment. Davis has a long track record of right-wing (by Tory standards) social politics- his current pinko tendencies are purely opportunistic through Party Political opposition to Labour.

Anyone thinking Davis and the Tories are the saviours of our liberties is in for a horrible shock if they get elected- because they'll be looking for the votes of Sun readers to swing Labour seats.
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Old 06-14-2008, 02:02 PM   #7
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Nobody claimed it was going to be a great career move under Cameron.
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Old 06-14-2008, 02:15 PM   #8
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1) He's setting an image up for himself with, inter alia, the electorate to further his career.
2) He almost certainly won't lose his seat.
3) It puts Gordo and Cameron into a bind when he wins if played with the proper finesse.

Whether he believes in the cause or not is an aside.
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Old 06-14-2008, 02:54 PM   #9
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Old 06-14-2008, 03:14 PM   #10
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Originally posted by Dauphin
1) He's setting an image up for himself with, inter alia, the electorate to further his career.
2) He almost certainly won't lose his seat.
3) It puts Gordo and Cameron into a bind when he wins if played with the proper finesse.
Exactly.

It's a huge attention-seeking showboat. The one funny prospect is that, assuming he wins and the Tories form the next government, they'll find it rather difficult to lapse back into their old pro-police habits. And Davis, being an inveterate right-winger, will be in a more difficult position than most.
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Old 06-14-2008, 05:25 PM   #11
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Accusations of New-Labour fanboyism are usually better-suited to people who aren't life-long Liberal voters.
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Old 06-14-2008, 07:00 PM   #12
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No. I'm the life-long Liberal voter in question.
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Old 06-14-2008, 07:23 PM   #13
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Do you support Clegg's stance on this, Laz?
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Old 06-14-2008, 09:39 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Sandman
Do you support Clegg's stance on this, Laz?
Which one? On the detention, or on contesting Haltemprice?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:10 PM   #15
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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp

Which one? On the detention, or on contesting Haltemprice? On not contesting.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:05 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Sandman


On not contesting.
I think it's arse, frankly. It creates a tacitly subordinate position to the Tories on civil liberties, and suggests a degree of collusion.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:21 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Sandman
I think it's good. Either the Tories get split How is that likely to happen? With the seat not being seriously contended the likely outcome is Davis being re-elected with an increased majority. Whereupon he's re-elected, on a ticket of opposing anti-terrorism detention, for a party already opposing anti-terrorism detention. And, to be quite honest, I think he'll be back in a shadow cabinet or full cabinet position within a year.

Some split.
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:27 PM   #18
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Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
420 days?

Is the Sun sponsoring legalization of 'erbal remedies now? Checkit! Thank you for saying it, so I wouldn't have to.

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Old 06-16-2008, 11:20 PM   #19
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Update.

It's now considered pretty unlikely that McKenzie will stand. Thus making an already pointless by-election even less interesting.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:41 AM   #20
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