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Old 03-06-2008, 10:06 PM   #21
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker


You can't prove anything that's not 'natural' under that definition to exist. Which is the difficulty in proving (or disproving) the existence of God*.

However, if God (for example) suddenly spoke to you, you would have some 'proof' of His existence. However, you couldn't mode or probe His existence, and so He would be supernatural.

I agree that there would be no scientific 'proof', as that requires repeatibilitiy/etc. Which obviously isn't necessary, and the data would be thrown out. This would just be an example of Science failing to describe the truth, which is possible.

It is even possible (I think even likely) that we won't be able to model/probe everything that exists within this universe. That doesn't mean that things didn't exist (for example, 200 years ago nucleons couldn't be probed or modeled, it didn't mean that they didn't exist). There is nothing that guaruntees that everything in the universe can be probed and modeled.

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*Replace with flying noodle monster as your personal inclination warrants.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:22 PM   #22
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I can use 'noon chucks'. No clue how it's actually spelled. When I was in the army, 17 years old, I first learned how from some friends. Used them as an exercise device and to impress friends for 20 years after that. Haven't picked up a pair in a while, but will soon as I get back to Oregon. My shoulder is screwed up and I have to work it.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:29 PM   #23
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit

Shocking. Electrifying ?
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:35 PM   #24
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I'm a bit curious about the 'over a foot' arc. That's a pretty big arc through air... I'm not an E&M expert but I have a hard time believing the human body could potentially produce that much voltage. And, isn't amperage also involved in the ability to arc through air over distance?
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:09 PM   #25
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I can roll my tounge up and I can also turn my tounge on it's side and alturnate from side to side.
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:33 PM   #26
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I don't have so many talents that I would be secretive about them.

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Old 03-07-2008, 12:30 AM   #27
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Originally posted by Tiamat
I can roll my tounge up and I can also turn my tounge on it's side and alturnate from side to side. You related to B etor?
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:19 AM   #28
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Originally posted by Blake


No, at best you only ever know "Something is thinking". You may attach the origin to those thoughts as being the voice of god beamed directly into your brain, but that's just so much conjecture. You need to broaden your mind.

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Old 03-07-2008, 02:10 AM   #29
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Originally posted by Blake
No, at best you only ever know "Something is thinking". You may attach the origin to those thoughts as being the voice of god beamed directly into your brain, but that's just so much conjecture. Hey Blake, I just figured out what the sound of one hand clapping is--it's you getting smacked upside the head!
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:37 AM   #30
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Originally posted by Elok


Hey Blake, I just figured out what the sound of one hand clapping is--it's you getting smacked upside the head! Hee hee. I'm gonna use that one.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:01 AM   #31
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Originally posted by Jon Miller


You need to broaden your mind.

JM And how would you tell the difference between God beaming thoughts into your mind and an alien UFO beaming thoughts into your mind?

I can conceive of no proof of God's actions, that cannot be explained equally well by technology which is beyond my imagination (or even within it, in some cases), or by delusion :P.

It's certainly possible that God does go around, and, in a fit of divine boredom, goes to some poor sap and says "Hey! I'm God and I exist".

But there are other explanations which also work, like poor sap has a mental illness or is on drugs or is a liar...

Maybe God does exist (and is really bored), but it's nothing to get up in arms over, because it's not for sure.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:37 AM   #32
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I have a talent for ignoring all of these stupid religion arguments that float around the net.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:41 AM   #33
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Actually, I thought of one; psycotropic drugs are only about 10-20% effective against my mind. I need 2mg of lorazepam or 25mg of diazepam to actually make a dent in my thought processes. Must admit though, it is pretty scary how nice taking those drugs can be...
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:52 AM   #34
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Originally posted by b etor


it's so not hard to do it. i could, but i don't. i used to put my foot in my mouth when i was like three. my father bites his toenails a lot. the men on his side of the family do. it's gross. I wish my tendons will stay that flexible by the time I have a teenage daughter. Using nail clippers made me lose a lot of bendiness.
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