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Old 03-22-2008, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Forgive the Torontonians... for they know not what they have done.
$13K might pay the rent on a cheap place.

Congrats Dracon.

(except for the TO bit - for that you have my sympathies)
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:59 PM   #2
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Get a job, screw the debt.
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:42 PM   #3
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Torontonians will tell you it is a good city. The rest of us know better.

In all fairness it will beat most major US cities hands down but in relation to other cities in Ontario and Canada it needs much work. Population of Toronto is 2-3M but the greater Toronto area would be more like 4M.

It is very unlikely you can live on $13K in Toronto even if you go the "starving student" route. It is an expensive city.
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:50 PM   #4
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Congrats

Originally posted by Dracon II
still waiting to hear from Chicago Good luck

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Old 03-22-2008, 10:47 PM   #5
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I assume that is $13,000 Canadian, or what is it now, $40,000 US?
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:52 PM   #6
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Sad, the days of Canadian dollar supremecy are already over?
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:56 PM   #7
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Toronto's a fun city and the rest of Canada makes fun of it mostly out of jealousy. The downside is that it tends to think its on the same scale as world cities like New York or London.

But $13K? Ouch. I'm getting £12,000 tax free for my Ph.D. here in the UK. That's near enough to $24,000. Dunno how you're meant to survive on less.
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Old 03-23-2008, 12:07 AM   #8
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Yeah, fair enough. I enjoyed my time there but the rest of the world is more fun.
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Old 03-23-2008, 12:29 AM   #9
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:36 AM   #10
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Yeah... in Australia the standard scholarship for ph.d is around 20k. I can only hope that they give me some work.

Yikes... not a lot of love for Toronto. Maybe I should've applied to McGill or something.
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:55 AM   #11
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Ah, the U of C offers typically about $19k fellowship, which includes some teaching in later years. More can be available with Fulbright scholarships and such (look towards the bottom, International Students assuming you are as I think you are, here: http://political-science.uchicago.edu/funding.shtml )
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:44 AM   #12
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And yes, I'm well aware of the irony that I'm a left winger who works for a Professor who's chums with Cliff Orwin and Harvey Mansfield!
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:58 AM   #13
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IR is definitely a strength of Chicago... I mostly studied under Mearsheimer (ran a great undergrad seminar that was basically just three hours once a week of talking about papers we were assigned to read, sort of like a journal club for grad students but shorter) but had a class with Walt before he left, Pape, Lipson, and Wendt before he left as well (too bad, he provided a nice balance to Mearsheimer et al, but I'm guessing he felt out of place with all of the realists leading the department).

I ended up not going into PoliSci (hence not finishing the major) but it was great to have classes with the big guys in the field, all discussion classes and all taught actually by them rather than by proxy through TAs or something.

I didn't take much outside of IR except what was required (a Marx/Hegel class that taught me that german philosophers ARE as bad as french philosophers is the only non-IR related PoliSci class I can recall) but there are some good guys in that department. It looks like they accept about 35 people a year (of which half or so accept)... dunno where you fall but good luck being in the top 35
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:10 AM   #14
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He moved to Korea.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:59 PM   #15
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Ah yes, IIRC that was the book he was writing while I was in class with him (written 1999-2002 or so I think). We read chapter 2 as part of our discussion class

I'm talking Rosseau and such, which predates Hegel etc. by a decent bit I've never studied modern French philosophy except a very brief study of Foucault, who I can't stand either
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