[Nicihntm]

Balkan buggy! Does it come in any other colors?

The German tram looks like a shoebox w/ wheels, but nice paint job.

[QbCp7LaZ]

It's only for testing now; there will still be purchase competition between manufacturers. This was on news few days ago, Croatian ambassador was driving around in this thing.

Helsinki City Transport has been quite disappointed with German crap, dunno yet if these are better.

Check out Sporakoff for comfortable public transportation (it's a pub tram - BEER!).

[jisee]

These Croat tram guys never made cars, right? Nothing to do with the Yugo, correct?

[Promalada]

Originally posted by Lancer
These Croat tram guys never made cars, right? Nothing to do with the Yugo, correct? ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Yugo , that was built in Serbia entirely. Well perhaps we supplied some parts, but in that case those were the good parts.

[Ilaubuas]

Originally posted by JulianD
It's only for testing now; there will still be purchase competition between manufacturers. This was on news few days ago, Croatian ambassador was driving around in this thing.

Helsinki City Transport has been quite disappointed with German crap, dunno yet if these are better.

Check out Sporakoff for comfortable public transportation (it's a pub tram).

From what I read the German trams started to fall apart

Though to be honest you people seem to have purposefully designed your city to be difficult for trams, with lots of sharp curves and hills and whatnot. That's where I predict the Croatian tram could also have trouble (like the German), since here it drives on flat surface all the time. We shall see.

And excellent idea to make one coach a pub, I wish I commuted in one of those :beer:

[Assentesy]

Yeah, try to blame Canada.

The truth is the German engineering is in a sad state. Older engineers like Sir Ralph are becoming fewer and with you studiying ballet and BeBro going into designing clothes, there's nobody left to replace them. It breaks my heart.

[Nptxsews]

[MeeveStesia]

Well who knows... I think the Croatian ones look nicer so hey, let's go with that. No fugly ones anymore, thanks!

[Wrencytet]

blah

[asharbiq]

San Diego's older trolleys are German built Siemens-Duewag U2s though since around 1998 they've been buying Siemens SD100 & SD70s.

http://world.nycsubway.org/us/sandiego/

[Anckzxik]

Originally posted by Oerdin
San Diego's older trolleys are German built Siemens-Duewag U2s though since around 1998 they've been buying Siemens SD100 & SD70s.

http://world.nycsubway.org/us/sandiego/

Why would anyone be interested or care about what San Diego does?

[ZIZITOPER]

Do you see me posting pictures of Calgary trains in this thread randomly?

[jimbomaxf]

Originally posted by Asher
Do you see me posting pictures of Calgary trains in this thread randomly? I googled them. They're so ugly I can see why you didn't.

Besides I'm just shilling for German made trolleys/trams which were unfairly maligned by our resident Croat.

[Irravepem]

But ours are painted nicer. And now we buy different Siemens trains.

[Elitiachirl]

Originally posted by Oerdin
But ours are painted nicer. And now we buy different Siemens trains. Yes, San Diego now purchases the older SD-100s while Calgary uses the SD-160s which are more efficient. They look the same, just one is better internally...

[softy54534]

I saw a guy driving a Yugo around the other day... nearly fell down laughing

[NickGrass]

They already have the old U2s and newish SD100 running 4-6 cars long so what they really needed was more frequent service rather then having everyone waiting around for a big train. They decided to have a bunch of little 2 car trains going around the routes on a much more frequent basis thus provided faster and more convent service for riders. That's the smart route.

[ChicasCams]

They own the following:


Manufacturer/Model Numbers Order Date
Siemens-Duewag U2 1001-1014 1980
Siemens-Duewag U2 1015-1024 1982
Siemens-Duewag U2 1025-1030 1986
Siemens-Duewag U2 1031-1050 1989
Siemens-Duewag U2 1051-1071 1990
Siemens SD100 2001-2052 1995
Siemens SD70 3001-3011 2004

With 51 SD100s that are only 3-13 years old & 67 U2s there isn't much need for large trains on the main lines. What's needed is small trains running the feeder lines and the new line through Mission Valley. That's why they're buying SD70s. As an added bonus it is just cheaper to operate the smaller trains on the feeder lines then to shell out big money for extra capacity which would go unused plus you can run more of the small trains during peak hours meaning people wait less time at each stop.

[Nwxffgke]

Smaller train cars are perhaps more fuel efficient?

[movlabc]

Those are the ones commonly used in Ruhr Valley:
Düwag, type M/N
http://www.tram-info.de/wagenp/bild.htm?bochum&341

Düwag Type B
http://www.tram-info.de/wagenp/bild.htm?bochum&6001

Those are the ones that will replace them within the next years (30 pf them are ordered):
Stadler Variobahn
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Mh_VBL_variobahn.jpg
http://www.bogestra.de/cache/pica/5/.../variobahn.JPG