[truck]

Originally posted by Asher


You have to be kidding if Christianity doesn't have anything to do with homophobia. You seem to have trouble with subtle meanings don’t you.

[bataovady]

Originally posted by Asher
Why do you think things like the Matthew Shepard incident only happen in regions dominated by Christianity? That's demonstrably false.

[Soypopetype]

1) Why is this limited to North America? Demonstrating an incident in a region not dominated by Christianity is sufficient to disprove your statement. (edit: http://www.reporterassociati.org/mod...rticle&sid=252)

2) You claimed a link to Christianity, not religion in general.

[Impariclainna]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
1) Why is this limited to North America? Demonstrating an incident in a region not dominated by Christianity is sufficient to disprove your statement.

2) You claimed a link to Christianity, not religion in general. Because that's the context I was speaking in. Christianity is obviously not the dominant religion in all regions.

So, if this is so easy, get up and do it. If you're just being anal, then good on you -- be proud.

[Hsmrcahr]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
1) Why is this limited to North America? Demonstrating an incident in a region not dominated by Christianity is sufficient to disprove your statement.

2) You claimed a link to Christianity, not religion in general. My first thoughts exactly. The answer, naturally, is that Asher only knows of local examples from his immediate cultural surroundings which is understandable. What is frustrating is that he is using them in a argument that requires some further knowledge of other cultures.

[gorbasevhuynani]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Okay: http://www.reporterassociati.org/mod...rticle&sid=252 Again, this is religious. It's also not the west.

As I have since clarified: I'm talking about the western world, the context of this thread as luck would have it.

That took me all of ten seconds with Google News, by the way.
Good show young padewan! Now see if you can do it correctly.

[electmobile]

Originally posted by Asher


Again, this is religious. It's also not the west.

As I have since clarified: I'm talking about the western world, the context of this thread as luck would have it.
Actually the context of this thread is about Islam not Christianity.

More specificaly Islam in the West. Perhaps Christianity vs. Islam concerning their abuses of power. Anything beyond this is more or less threadjack.

[ricochettty]

Originally posted by Asher


"in Great Britain"

has what to do with Iran. Same could be said of Christians in the US don't you agree?

[freflellalafe]

Originally posted by Asher

No, because the US and Britain have very similar cultures. They are Christian-dominated cultures. And the musilim immigrants have very similar cultures to those found in the Middle East.

If anything they feel alienated from most of Western culture, even hating it in some cases.

[ulnanVti]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST


I would say that christian fundamentalism is more widespread in the USA than in GB (or most other european countries). So certain important differences exist.

Although the muslim subcultures in both countries might be similar. Especially considering the high number of atheists & agnostics and the general drive for secularism, coupled with bad historical experience regarding religion on this side of the pond.

Proteus the muslim subcultures are most likley quite different because of the fact that European society is not the melting pot of the US, plus the fact that the European one is larger by a considerable margin.

[golozhopik]

Let's see, was it last year or the year before that the People's Republic of China enacted a series of laws against homosexuality?

IIRC the Amnesty International website has a section featuring the legal status of homosexuality in a variety of countries. I think you'll find that a couple of muslim countries punish homosexuality with the death penalty and a number of others provide jail sentences. http://www.amnestyusa.org/LGBT_Human...&n2=36&n3=1040

Interesting. Homosexuality is illegal in the less modern muslim countries, but also in India, Sri Lanka and Nepal, countries which are neither Christian nor Muslim. While technically legal in atheist China some homosexual have been persecuted to such an extent that they were forced to seek asylum in other countries. They're also banned from some jobs, like teaching.

[VINPELA]

Originally posted by Thue


TIme for some bible quoting. Deuteronomy chapter 13, verse 6-10 (http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/B...uteronomy.html)
Jesus specifically stated that his teachings were here to replace the old rabbinical laws; the old testament was included in the Bible mainly as background information. This is why Christians aren't bound by such old testament instructions as being forbidden to eat pork.

To compare the Koran specifically states that all Muslims who convert to other religions must be given a chance to convert back but if they refuse they must be killed. Huge difference.

[forotis]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The state must enforce the law, especially laws as serious as murder, and the guilty must be punished as severely as possible to discourage other such acts of barbarism. Yes, this is what's required.

[boffincash]

Originally posted by David Floyd
....various other charges such as conspiracy to commit felony should be tacked on as well. So, you're planning on doing something more than just kill them?

[I9dydJrX]

How about a good old fashioned lynch mob? Torch the whole community just like in the good ol' days. That'll send a message that they all can understand. I mean after all, they killed a Christian didn't they? Someone needs to set some boundaries had they not? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Better now than never. How true, how true.

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[ReggieRed]

DF is German too?