[Foucceedo]

Originally posted by Pekka
Yeah but look at the neighbouring countries. It's almost equal to fixing Africa, in fact it would only make sense to fix it while you're at it anyway .

But no, I mean it's not going to happen so... we're going to go on with this issue for a long time and I think the best we can do is to try to intervene the negative sides of this and weirdness that comes out of certain people and groups trying to evade the authorities in fear of being deported. new communities will rise, they will be poor so there will be even more small crime related stuff, maybe even few bigger crime problems as well, but at the same time, it becomes increasingly impossible to deport them.

So I figure the only thing we can realistically do is to try to fix some of the problems, these negative problems this thing creates within EU. So it's basically just reacting to problems... is this a good plan? No. This isn't even a plan. But like we've discussed, what can you realistically do? I don't see any single or combination of ways to remedy this. Stricter police control will do little good, so that’s only a little step and a uncomfortable one at that.

Perhaps we could finance the construction of factories in North Africa... we would have to lower some of our standards concerning human rights and labor rules, but these factories together with laxer immigration laws in those countries could take some pressure off us and they would experience some economic growth because of it... I suppose with proper legislation to encourage profitable investments in this direction could work in combination with direct political pressure on those countries to accept the China style slave- ehh I mean cheap labor.

This would be more realistic, this time truly neo-colonialist but It could work, we would have to lower our ethical standards to those employed by other powers. I could rational that in an illegal workshop in Europe they wouldn’t be much better off.

[crestorinfo]

Originally posted by BlackCat


Ehrm, if Vetty is right, then last time you and your colonial masters had a fleet it got beaten by a couple of danish ships and you needed the brits to prevent a total beatup Do you mean the Habsburgs? Wich war are you refering to? Europe has a history of those you know... Their navy was puny but had some great commanders.

[eduptultyt]

Originally posted by BlackCat


Yeah, there has been a european war or two - that's the burden of being civilized

The one in mind :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Heligoland I'm sure back then Danish ironclads were the pinnical of military technology.

PS Do you mean the white man's burden?

PS I remember that one now, anyway you must admit they were better at it than the Italians, not that that is something special anway. The battle I refer to. Thanks for the link btw.

[Nubtoubrem]

Originally posted by Heraclitus

BTW Croatians assimilate quite nicely. Hey I am coming... or at least planning to come

Slovenija moja dezela!

[VitaliyMurnov]

Originally posted by VetLegion
There are like 10 foreigners in Slovenia and you are busy thinking how to get rid of them Croatia are teh experts in getting rid of foreigners. :OperationStorm:

[TRASIAOREXOLA]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Hmmm, EU/NATO has been unable to 'fix' the problems of Bosnia despite 12 years of Imperial dictatorship. I can't see the ME or Africa being 'fixed' any time soon. hey if somebody started opening those call centres in Bosnia it would fix itself

[irresseni]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Croatia are teh experts in getting rid of foreigners. :OperationStorm:

or perhaps you (or we ) as the usual imperialist invader supects are the experts on knowing how is it to be kicekd out... :USA: :Ireland: :Iraq:

[truttyMab]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
Battle of Legoland? Were you in the PTWDG1?

[Carfanate]

Originally posted by Pekka
EU is not a country It has a flag, it has a currency, it has anthem, it has government, and you know you're carrying an EU passport. Case closed!

[AdSuiteAdobe]

Originally posted by Oerdin


It has a flag, it has a currency, it has anthem, it has government, and you know you're carrying an EU passport. Case closed! Is Disneyland a country?

[sportbos]

Originally posted by Oerdin


It has a flag, it has a currency, it has anthem, it has government, and you know you're carrying an EU passport. Case closed! Trappings of statehood, perhaps. EU still isn't a country.

[Moupponge]

Can Texas invade another country? When will CA get a seat at the UN?

[giDdfezP]

Originally posted by C0ckney


you have an incredibly naive and simplistic view on how to solve the problems of africa. BTW Could you elaborate on that? I hope you aren’t taking my posts literally.

What my second proposal in fact about is that we turn those countries into little replicas of China, little obedient ones. In essence I’m proposing to replace the illegal factories we have in Europe with ones built with our capital in North Africa and making them legal there, this way there will be less pressure from unskilled labor on Europe, and we’ll get some fresh taxes from our corporations, who would own the factories. The dirty jobs we really need done here can be more or less filled with existing lower classes. Now if that isn't pragmatic I don’t know what is...

Anyway the NA leaders will see or be made to see this is in their best interest …

PS I do consider this plan unethical, but such is the way of politics…

PS Don't American corporations control some similar sites near the US border in Mexico?

EDIT Just noticed Africa in you're response. My first proposal was about helping them, the one you commented was about exploting them.

[Mediconlinee]

Oh no wait I found a link.

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%...95%BF%E5%9F%8E

[EvonsRorgon]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Is Disneyland a country? Of course it is. Don't be silly.

[Kuncher]

Originally posted by LordShiva
No! Disneyland does not do teh politics! It is for teh small shildren! So is the Vatican.

[Soolfelpecelf]

Any illegal immigrants who try to get into Europe should be turned into soylent green then given to starving Africans.