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**Angeheade** · 11-10-2007, 10:42 AM

I'm very surprised at the lack of thunderous applause from the anti dp people.
NJ can do what they want. It's their problem.

**GeorgeEckland** · 11-10-2007, 05:21 PM

I think the anti dp people, which I am myself, is not so much applauding now because if someone needs it, it's NJ.

**daasayse** · 11-10-2007, 06:13 PM

This is a sign of civilized? New Jersey? Too funny.

**olivelappers** · 11-10-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Instead of executing people, NJ should just exile them to Texas. As long as they can get around the 8th Amendment... Wouldn't removing them from NJ be a reward? It is New Jersey afterall.

**Noilemaillilm** · 11-10-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Wezil
I'll applaud.

NJ joined the civilised world in practice 44 years ago. They are now joining in theory as well.

I agree completely.

It makes me happy to hear some good news, for a change, about the status of human rights in the world.

civilisation

**Cibirrigmavog** · 11-10-2007, 06:27 PM

Is that supposed to be a real arguement against the DP?

**Lafclaria** · 11-10-2007, 06:32 PM

Jamaica

**Poeetiol** · 11-10-2007, 06:36 PM

Well, ok. Let's look at names not on the list.
France. Now what have you got to say? Uh huh. Just as I thought.

**AgJ5mNXM** · 11-10-2007, 06:53 PM

After a quick scan: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan. Obviously not Western democracies in the strict sense of the word, but I think they serve as decent counterexamples to your trend.

edit: In fact, that could imply a very different trend especially since Russia doesn't appear to be on that list.

**bubbachew14** · 11-10-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
After a quick scan: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan. Obviously not Western democracies in the strict sense of the word, but I think they serve as decent counterexamples to your trend. True, but they execute far fewer people than you might think and the general culture is very different form the west. They were under strong US influence in the past as well...

And in any case the list of counterexamples of successful democracies is much, much longer...

**Arr34ston** · 11-10-2007, 07:25 PM

In some places there is a need.

Most Executions carried out in 2006

China (at least 1,010 but sources suggest the real tally is between 7,500 and 8,000)[10]
Iran (177)
Pakistan (82)
Iraq (at least 65)
Sudan (at least 65)
United States (53)

**zueqhbyhp** · 11-10-2007, 07:47 PM

I have no intention of being trolled into a debate of the pros and cons of the death penalty. Been there, done that.

I'm just congratulating NJ on moving forward.

**Biradallo** · 11-10-2007, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by Heraclitus

PS I forgot the current administration considers Iraq one... and Afghanistan. Also on the list of course.

11-10-2007, 10:42 AM	#1
Angeheade Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 679 Senior Member	New Jersey plans first execution in 44 years... I'm very surprised at the lack of thunderous applause from the anti dp people. NJ can do what they want. It's their problem. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GeorgeEckland Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	I think the anti dp people, which I am myself, is not so much applauding now because if someone needs it, it's NJ. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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daasayse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 361 Senior Member	This is a sign of civilized? New Jersey? Too funny. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 06:22 PM	#4
olivelappers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	Originally posted by Kuciwalker Instead of executing people, NJ should just exile them to Texas. As long as they can get around the 8th Amendment... Wouldn't removing them from NJ be a reward? It is New Jersey afterall. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 06:24 PM	#5
Noilemaillilm Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Originally posted by Wezil I'll applaud. NJ joined the civilised world in practice 44 years ago. They are now joining in theory as well. I agree completely. It makes me happy to hear some good news, for a change, about the status of human rights in the world. civilisation Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Cibirrigmavog Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 386 Senior Member	Is that supposed to be a real arguement against the DP? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Lafclaria Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	Jamaica Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 06:36 PM	#8
Poeetiol Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 352 Senior Member	Well, ok. Let's look at names not on the list. France. Now what have you got to say? Uh huh. Just as I thought. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 06:53 PM	#9
AgJ5mNXM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 339 Senior Member	After a quick scan: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan. Obviously not Western democracies in the strict sense of the word, but I think they serve as decent counterexamples to your trend. edit: In fact, that could imply a very different trend especially since Russia doesn't appear to be on that list. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 07:15 PM	#10
bubbachew14 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Originally posted by Kuciwalker After a quick scan: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan. Obviously not Western democracies in the strict sense of the word, but I think they serve as decent counterexamples to your trend. True, but they execute far fewer people than you might think and the general culture is very different form the west. They were under strong US influence in the past as well... And in any case the list of counterexamples of successful democracies is much, much longer... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 07:25 PM	#11
Arr34ston Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	In some places there is a need. Most Executions carried out in 2006 China (at least 1,010 but sources suggest the real tally is between 7,500 and 8,000)[10] Iran (177) Pakistan (82) Iraq (at least 65) Sudan (at least 65) United States (53) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 07:47 PM	#12
zueqhbyhp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	I have no intention of being trolled into a debate of the pros and cons of the death penalty. Been there, done that. I'm just congratulating NJ on moving forward. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2007, 10:56 PM	#13
Biradallo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Originally posted by Heraclitus PS I forgot the current administration considers Iraq one... and Afghanistan. Also on the list of course. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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