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Originally posted by Lorizael
No, not false - meaningless.

I can't provide absolute proof of abstract thought in other oganisms one way or the other right now, so I don't take those potential thoughts into consideration. How could I?

Anyhow, speaking of perceiving what we wish to perceive, I'm willing to bet you're probably rather guilty of that. I'm willing to bet you like animals and nature and all that other crap, and that this influences your belief that they have value of some sort.

Well I like all of that stuff, too, but I don't let it stop me from thinking rationally about them. And of course, by "thinking rationally about" I mean butchering and eating for my hedonistic pleasure.
There's not much rationality in over fishing, desertifying, poisoning, irradicating the world. Rational thought in regard to the environment would be to give back as much as you take - to eat what you need, and leave the rest. To ensure their well-being, even. So that you you, and future generations will continue to have something to eat. Taking more than you need to survive is not rational. Turning living things into money - an abstract concept that has no value in the real world is not rational. Attempting to enslave the universe to your personal will is not rational. It is megalomaniac and delusional.