[kathy]

The character of the Anti-Christ is an inherent part of Christ himself. They are the same.

[sadgpokx]

The Anti-Christ won't try to destruct humanity, won't be hated by all people.
The Anti-Christ is the incarnation of mans believe in man.
It'll bring peace, join the nations, and bring the golden age of humanity.

[MgpojuWy]

Originally posted by Nikolai
...for a while that is. Well, I believe that the Golden Age of Man is a death-end road.
In the end we still die. And even if there's peace, I still believe there will be pain, sickness, arguments, divorcing, etc.

[jessyhalm]

Bah, Anti-Christ. It's nothing against teh Anti-Frog who is mentioned in the ancient scrolls of Heresson.

[PharmACT]

Have you read The Story of B, CyberShy?


It sounds like your take on the anti-christ is very similiar to what that book is about. It's a good take on the subject.

EDIT: Hm, well maybe your point of view isn't that much like it afterall. Still I'd recomend the book to anyone interested in the Anti-Christ.

[Speareerfug]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Everyone:

The planet could really use an anti-Christ right now. Someone that humanity could focus all of its hatreds on. Someone truly evil to focus on and utterly destroy, leaving humanity standing triumphant.

That, of course, is why there will *never* be an anti-Christ. Think about it. If you're actively seeking the destruction of humanity, the world seems to be doing just fine on its own without an anti-Christ to further stir things up. We maim and kill each other with ease. We take power and ground those with lesser power into dust. We fulfill our every carnal desire, be they of flesh or of spirit. In the end, we're a fallen species. In a manner of speaking, aren't we already doing the work of evil to each other? So, why destroy a good thing by introducing an anti-Christ who would probably end up having to face a unified humanity. Right now, we're so disunited and at each other's throats that, if there was a Satan, it'd be laughing its ass off about right now.

So, the world could use an anti-Christ about now, but one will not be forthcoming. It'd derail Satan's plans, you see.

Gatekeeper The anti-christ will come when the world already has a common enemy. The anti-christ will unite them against that enemy and make himself the worlds leader.

[KongoSan]

Originally posted by CyberShy


The story of B? Never heard of it.
What's the difference with my take on it? In all honesty, I can't remember the details to well. But I belive the anti-christ in that book was a sort of mesiah figure, who preached teachings that would bring the downfall of religous followings and current societal structures, while open ing people's eyes to primitive ways of life, and a more animistic spirituality. In the case of the book, the anti-christ's roll was not to bring about a "golden age of humanity" but to prepare people for life after civilization, or in other words, life after the "golden age". (that's a terrible term to use like this, though, as it has such unshakeble positive connotations that come with it)

Another way of looking at it, would be that he is trying to make a return to the garden of eden, which had been left 10,000 years ago when humans set off on the bender known as civilization.

Daniel Quinn is the author.

[Avgustslim]

To end all evil.
The end death.
To end sickness and pain, fights and hate.

There's peace in Western Europe for 50 years now, but I promise you, it's still not paradise. With the anti-christ in charge of a truely united mankind, in time, things like more advanced methods of curing sickness, extending lifespans yet further and such would be implemented. With death being so far away in the future i believe apathy about life having any sort of purpose would increase athiesm.

As for the ending all evil, i don't believe that mankind is interested in that and we will accept suffering somewhere as part and parcel of being alive. We all read about genocides, famine and such elsewhere in the world and whilst none of us wants it i doubt it affects many people to attend church every day and pray to God for it to stop, heck it doesn't even affect most to give a few £ a month to a charity to help prevent it.

[Stappipsy]

Gate, you can't use skapegoating for good. People who will skapegoat one outsider, will skapegoat others too.

[Galinastva]

Originally posted by St Leo
Gate, you can't use skapegoating for good. People who will skapegoat one outsider, will skapegoat others too. scapegoat. The goat who escapes. On Yom Kippur, in ancient times, the priest took two goats. One was chosen by lot to be sacrificed. The other, the sins of the people were placed on him, and he was allowed to escape, to the wilderness. Hence "scapegoat"


Now a Skate goat, that would be something else.

and oh, yeah, the one who was sacrificed was called "for the lord" the one who escaped was "for azazel" azazel being some kind of demon who dwelt in the wilderness.

Hence our good ultrasecularist Israeli poster, though he doesnt post much lately.

[jokilewqs]

Originally posted by St Leo
No need for the planet to get involved. The US Army will take care of those. dont forget about the Secretary of Defence!

[SDorothy28]

Originally posted by Asmodean


Fixed!!

Asmodean

[L0KoxewQ]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Excuse me?

Gatekeeper: The anti-Chirst is not one the world can focus its hatred on. It's one that will unite the world with promises of peace and harmony. Which will be the case for a short while, until he shows his real colours. A hundred little evils (in terms of the current state of the world) or one big evil (the aforementioned anti-Christ figure), I guess it's still the same in the end — someone, somewhere is always suffering because of another's actions.

Using your example, Nikolai, I imagine world peace (whatever that might be) is nigh impossible, since if anyone ever reaches the point where what they do could bring it about, s/he would be accused of being the anti-Christ. I suppose, under that worldview, the best one could settle for are regions of stability in an otherwise wacked out world.

Another thing I've mused about on occasion: Why must the anti-Christ be a man? Why not a woman? It'd be a bit more original, if nothing else. Oh, wait. Oh. My. God. The anti-Christ is HILLARY CLINTON!

AUGH!

Gatekeeper

P.S. I'm not a religious scholar, by any means, so my thoughts are coming more from a philosophical direction than anything else.

[kertUtire]

Originally posted by aneeshm
The character of the Anti-Christ is an inherent part of Christ himself. They are the same. I'm not a religious scholar. Please enlighten me a bit further, Aneeshm. Are you basically saying Christ and the anti-Christ are flip sides of the same coin?

Gatekeeper

[Anteneprorid]

Originally posted by St Leo
Gate, you can't use skapegoating for good. People who will skapegoat one outsider, will skapegoat others too. LotM had an interesting tidbit on the origin of the word "scapegoat," but I must admit, St. Leo, that I'm not quite sure what point it is you're trying to drive home.

Gtkpr (sans the vowels)

[secondmortgagek]

Originally posted by MarkG
how about alien robots? Those robots won't be so alien if the U.S. military continues its AI and robotics programs at the rate they're going. Heh. Skynet might not be a fiction limited to James Cameron's mind after all if the next 10 to 20 years continue as they are now, development-wise.

Gatekeeper

[mrPronmaker]

Originally posted by CyberShy
The Anti-Christ won't try to destruct humanity, won't be hated by all people.
The Anti-Christ is the incarnation of mans believe in man.
It'll bring peace, join the nations, and bring the golden age of humanity. Sounds like a top bloke.

[preptarra]

Do they even mention the word in the Bible ?

[ferelrossi]

Apparently a lot of us are antichrists though

1 John 2:221 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.

[uchetrip]

Originally posted by BeBro
Bah, Anti-Christ. It's nothing against teh Anti-Frog who is mentioned in the ancient scrolls of Heresson. Yeah, according to the prophesy he will be German, too