[Essefsbyday]

I think it would be tough to give Apple any flack for the design of its products. It doesn't always get its products right, but its products show immense amount of TLC and design sense.

[Sarbrienna]

Amish

[swoluelvede]

We all know that Apple will one day in the near or far future change its name into Sirius cybernetic corporation

[xtc2d6u8]

An interesting article.

[Faumpiggueria]

Originally posted by Adrian Hon
What's the problem with the iMac's design? They look good, but they're as upgradeable as laptops.

Even if I wanted a Mac, I wouldn't buy a iMac (doesn't suit my needs) and I couldn't afford buying one of the good Macs, the PowerMacs.

[MilenaMKB]

The iMac was not made to be upgradeable. It was specifically designed for one market segment: people who want a very cheap functional computer that will work well out of the box and do everything they do - ie, browse the web, word processing, the kids' homework [hopefully done by the kids] - and that's it.

Making it upgradeable would have been a poor design choice for that segment of the market. People who want to upgrade their computers get PowerMacs

[f6HLLFcw]

Ok, that is the iMac then. What do they call their desktops?

[Rjvpicux]

Buttons are sexy. At least the various buttons on my woman...

[Beatris]

Originally posted by nostromo


iBook and Macbook Pro = laptops

iMac and Mac Pro = desktops

The current iMac

Thanks. For clarity, my post was in reference to iBooks. And my coworker was a bit nutty to begin with.

[reervieltnope]

Originally posted by DaShi
I worked with this lady who bought a new iMac. A few months later she bought another one because it was then available in black. I think it's pretty obvious where Apple's profits come from. Nice lie.

You might want to check your facts before spinning such obvious BS.

[Everwondopedo]

Originally posted by nostromo


Have you seen the price on those things?

Here's what about 3K$ CDN (before taxes) gets you:

* Two 2.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
* 1GB (2 x 512MB)
* 250GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
* NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
* Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
* One 16x SuperDrive
* Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - French Canadian
* Mac OS X - French Canadian

I realize that Xeons and the special RAM they need don't come cheap, but its still a lot of dough. Maybe Apple should sell a cheaper Mac Pro. Apolyton nerds have no business buying one of those.

That is a computer for people who work with digital video or digital audio, or do heavy professional graphics work.

It is not a toy for video game geeks.

[Nigeopire]

Originally posted by Agathon


Apolyton nerds have no business buying one of those.

That is a computer for people who work with digital video or digital audio, or do heavy professional graphics work.

It is not a toy for video game geeks.

*breathes*

Heavy professional graphics work with an nVidia 7300 GT?

[RuttyUttepe]

Originally posted by Agathon


I've never seen a black iMac. Then it must not exist.

[Nundduedola]

Dashi meant the black iBook

[NicolasOL]

Originally posted by nostromo
Dashi meant the black iBook I see.

I worked with this lady who bought a new iMac. A few months later she bought another one because it was then available in black. I think it's pretty obvious where Apple's profits come from. Question answered.

[Wr8dIAUk]

Originally posted by Agathon


Apolyton nerds have no business buying one of those.

That is a computer for people who work with digital video or digital audio, or do heavy professional graphics work.

It is not a toy for video game geeks. Yes, that computer would be over the top for my needs, but the iMac would not be an option for me either, since the damn thing isn't upgradeable.

[IteseFrusty]

nm

[beriarele]

Originally posted by nostromo

Yes, that computer would be over the top for my needs, but the iMac would not be an option for me either, since the damn thing isn't upgradeable. Some parts of it are not upgradable. Upgrading the RAM and hard drive is pretty simple.

My question would be what you wanted it for. If you want it to game on, then Windows machines are thattaway ---->

My old iMac lasted for nearly six years (and is still going strong). I maxed the RAM and put a new hard drive in that. It was still able to run the latest version of Mac OS X at a respectable pace. In the last year I had it, HD video became the big thing, and it wouldn't do that. But I think 4 years is a reasonable lifespan for a computer I paid $1100 Canadian dollars for, and which never broke down.

You find me a consumer PC bought in 2000-1 for $1000 that is capable of running Windows Vista Premium.

I'm puzzled as to why it must be upgradeable.

[dfuzioniag]

Originally posted by Jaguar
I miss Asher. Yes, we really need someone to make up **** about Apple.

[baskentt]

About the upgradeability of the new iMacs. From the Ars Technica review of the iMac:

Apple seems to go back and forth on the wisdom of letting users service their Macs. The iMac lineup is a perfect example of this. If you'll remember the original Bondi Blue iMac of yesteryear, the only user-serviceable part in there was the one of the RAM slots, and getting to that was an onerous task, requiring some serious disassembly. If you wanted to upgrade both DIMMs, you were required to dig even deeper inside the case and pull out the processor daughtercard. Yikes!

One welcome change with the debut of the iMac G5 was that the number of user-serviceable parts increased. Instead of being limited to just adding RAM, you could swap out the hard drive, replace the power inverter, backup battery, add an AirPort card. In short, do all the things that PC users take for granted.

That changed with the "iSight" revision of the G5 iMac. Instead of being able to remove the back of the computer to get to all the good stuff, users are left with a door in the bottom to add or remove RAM. Unfortunately, that has remained the case with the Core Duo iMac. I took a shot at getting inside by removing the Torx screws at the bottom of the case along with memory door covering. No dice.

On a recent trip out west, I had the opportunity to chat with an Apple genius about the more difficult Macs to service. The current iMac form factor came in at the top of list. In order to get it open, you need to insert a flat tool through the ends of the cooling vent to unlock a couple of clasps. After those are released, you'll need to dig for the iSight camera cable. Good luck, because there's very little room and you only have two hands. After that, you need to take off the EMI shielding surrounding the LCD, and tilt that up to get to the rest of the guts. It's a time-consuming and tedious process, to say the least.