[jimbomaxf]

Get a grip, Pekka. Your analysis of everything is out of control.

[Sopzoozyren]

No it isn't, because there isn't any analysis involved. I know that's not what the intention was, so she just didn't predict how it might be interpreted by me. I would like to accept different kinds of stuff, God bless etc. That's cool.

But this is simply overriding my domain, and that domain is very distinctively out of spiritual domain, I do not want to have any claims that have implications that undermine the effort there is. Because that's exactly what it does. Like I said, hoping for strength etc, that's a different thing, that would be just fine. This one? Doesn't fly.

[haittiweerved]

Patrokolos, yeah, absolutely. ANd it's not that I need to hear that "YEAH YOU ROCK!". I mean I say that to myself all the time .

But... just not bring spiritual things into it. That's just giving me some space, I don't come to anyone else and force my stuff either. And I'm a Christian myself, it's not like would hate the thing, it's just that I'd like to think that my own mother doesn't think everyone's destiny as well as mien is because of God, and especially mine, and everythign I do is because of God. That is offensive, simply out of line. Maybe that's the way she rolls, but that's not the way I roll.

I mean it's like.. it's a reactive way to think about things. It's well "it's not in our hands anymore". That's cool, maybe people believe in destiny, but it's just so on the other opposite from what I do, so... kindly not try to enforce beliefs that overrides my domain that I so much love and work hard for.

[Kennypor]

Ok, Pekka. You and your great mind that just morphed into being can handle things yourself.
You believe this, I believe something else.
Your emotion at your mother is out of line, though.
If it means nothing, why let it bother you?

[flienianO]

You're such a hippy, Pekka.

[MgpojuWy]

Sloww, what do you mean out of line? How are they out of line? I said the saying bothers me, not my mother.

If it bothers me, maybe it means something, I don't know. Maybe it's that maybe one thing I don't like about religions is the reactive giving up on things, "letting God handle everything". Why not just work it out ourselves, if we are God's children, you know, I think we can give it a shot. We don't need stand idle and hope for the best, that's BS IMO, in every single case.

I never said what I believe in though, anything else that I don't believe in a set destiny that reveals itself through painful losses. Not unless God is a sadist of course.

The point is, we should all have professional respect for each other. I don't go to the church and shoot people in the face for believing the earth is 5000 years old because we can prove it isn't, and I hope they don't come and shoot my face because I do evil science.

[SeftyJokipl]

Pekka,

You don't have to answer this because it's personal. But what did you want your mom to say?

[BiseCreesia]

Here's something my mom does that pisses me off.

Whenever I tell here about a confrontation that I have with someone she takes the persons side. And she knows that I'm pissed off.

Mom's suck sometimes.

[SallythePearl]

I don't think it would matter what your mom had said, it would of still pissed you off. Even if she told you what you wanted to hear; "I'm proud of you, it's nice to see your hard work paying off." Instead she hides your success behind the vail of God, taking the credit away from you.

That's your mom.

You shouldn't get angry at Christianity for it, because that is not how it is, or how that saying is suppose to go. God's will is not something that is always given without asking, or without merit, or without cause. From I've heard your mom has a had a hard run at life, and probably has a lot of regrets. It is easier for her to think that life is not what you make it, but what God plans it to be. IMO, that's crap, but perhaps without her being the way she is and where she is you wouldn't be where you are and in the position you are in?

[agrismhig]

same thing

[Vipvlad]

Have you prayed about it?

[valensds]

Originally posted by Lancer
Have you prayed about it? Good idea.

[Beerinkol]

i've never heard that saying before.
i don't like it.

[Dyslermergerb]

Pekka, if that offends you, you won't last 2 seconds in China.

[autoloanexpert]

So well said!

[blenIgnigeSef]

Lets see what Pekka makes of it. If anything can be screwed into something negative Pekka can do it.

[gogFloark]

Everyone should basically just quit whining about the meaning of it. I did explain it in the very OP already from both perspectives.

If someone wants to argue about it, they should at least have their nipples pierced first.

[SkeniaInhilla]

Well, it's what happens when people start repeating things already said many times before. That's the penalty, nipples pierced.

[Efksqhyu]

There are always substitute places for nipples. And it's not like I'm saying we should enforce this, I'm only saying if people want to make valid arguments in threads I created, they should have their nipples pierced or I win by default.

[uniopaypamp]

I think one at a time is good enough. We wouldn't want to be unreasonable.