[mincarlie.frymyer]

He's too fat to be enjoyable.

[phinno13]

For somebody so concerned about healthcare, he really doesn't show it...is all I'm saying.

He's a ****ing media-whore loser. All he cares about is sensationalism.

[AndyColemants]

Originally posted by Asher
He's a ****ing media-whore loser. All he cares about is sensationalism. Ha! Shows what you know. At his last media-whore event, he stated he's now losing weight so as to lessen the burden on our healthcare system.

A weighty declaration, I must say. It takes a big man to step up like this.

[rusculture]

Originally posted by Pekka
Yeah, and he still is so grossly overweight that I don't think he is eligble for insurance. IT'S MCDONALD'S FAULT!

no wait... IT'S THE OIL INDUSTRY'S FAULT!

[w4HPpbSW]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
Ha! Shows what you know. At his last media-whore event, he stated he's now losing weight so as to lessen the burden on our healthcare system.

A weighty declaration, I must say. It takes a big man to step up like this. How old is the guy? His doctors told him he's going to die soon unless he loses weight. That's what he's doing.

Shame on you for thinking his intentions were anything but selfish. The guy's a fatass, always has been, and now he's pretending to care about health.

[awagsFare]

Moving to France

Pekka moving to France

[SHaEFU0i]

Drake, NEVER!!!!

I could, however, have a villa in Southern France for vacations and seducing French chicks (shaved).

[Xodvbooj]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
Ha! Shows what you know. At his last media-whore event, he stated he's now losing weight so as to lessen the burden on our healthcare system. He tried that already.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...blubbuh_h.html

[xqkAY7Lg]

Apparently Pekka's the only who has seen it.

[RotsLoado]

Sure. I'm not saying he is utterly wrong, I'm only saying that the show brought nothing new to the table. It doesn't mean it's worthless, it just means it's not a very good show.

And about the system, well clearly there's lots of problems with it. You should be able to trust what you've been sold and it shouldn't require you to be a laywer to be able to really understand the ins and the outs of it. Now it seems almost like a scam.

[Z2sc8gEz]

Originally posted by Pekka
And about the system, well clearly there's lots of problems with it. You should be able to trust what you've been sold and it shouldn't require you to be a laywer to be able to really understand the ins and the outs of it. Now it seems almost like a scam. Why can't people trust what they have been sold? He's not saying that people should expect insurance to pay for everything is he, when it clearly states in the policy that the insurer won't pay for everything.

[h98hhYxM]

Originally posted by Pekka
A normal looking house. Then what was the monthly income? 8 thousand dollars! Dude, is that middle class in France? MIght be, I don't know. In here, that's filthy ****ing rich! Average monthly salary is around 2000 euros, so two people, that's 4 grand on average about for a family where both are working. I don't see where these 8 grand babies come out, that's doctors and lawyers in here man. Que? My wife by herself makes between 5000 and 6000 USD a month, and that's not especially high. I'm a graduate student and even I make close to 2000 a month.

[Eeaquzyh]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I wonder how many lies he packed into the movie anyway. I watched it this morning, aside from slight of hand, like showing all the good stuff from other countries and not the bad stuff, I didn't see many outright lies.


Even though the state of the American health care system isn't anything new it is something that bears repeating.


On a side note: holy **** that man is fat, not like, "ooh Im big boned" I mean like his freaking arms swim in fat. You can see his body sway as he switches direction. I demand he go on that stupid reality show with fat celebrities and become an acceptable body weight!
Maybe the steroid-popping macho man can whip him into shape inbetween sessions of beating up Screech.

[eduptultyt]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Que? My wife by herself makes between 5000 and 6000 USD a month, and that's not especially high. I'm a graduate student and even I make close to 2000 a month. $60-70k a year is middle class for a single person, but fairly high middle class. Your combined income is close to 100k a year, which for two people with no kids is pretty high middle class. With kids it would be more like just somewhat high middle class.

In any event, $8k/month still has a lot of disposable income, I think is Pekka's point (or should be...) House of $200k probably goes for about 1700/month mortgage cost, other bills $1k/month, so over 5k/month for food (depends on family size, but unlikely to be over 1k/month). That still leaves 4k/month unencumbered, which is a lot... and thus not someone who should be worrying too much about health costs unless they are really sick.

[w4WBthjv]

In any event, $8k/month still has a lot of disposable income, I think is Pekka's point (or should be...) House of $200k probably goes for about 1700/month mortgage cost, other bills $1k/month, so over 5k/month for food (depends on family size, but unlikely to be over 1k/month). That still leaves 4k/month unencumbered.

Is there some sort of pill I can take so that I don't have to pay taxes either?

[TOD4wDTQ]

Really? Ok that's my mistake.

This is a regional difference though. I come from backwards country. Most people in here don't know people make that kind of money to begin with. We've been brainwashed by socialist ******.

I think it would be justice if at least few of them died in the market square, a painful death, public execution after hours of torture.

You know if your fmaily would make 8k a month in here, you'd have to be ashamed about it. Ashamed, you rich bastard.

Oh well. My goal is to make 10k a month at some point. We'll see if that actually happens. I smack prostitutes.

[Rithlilky]

I also like his "house of 200K"



Most people with 100K a year household income live in or near a major city. You can't even get a decent house in cheap-ass Baltimore for that price unless you want to live way the **** out in the county.

[DoterrFor]

Inherit you money or
Obtain all your income via corporate dividends.

For God's sake, don't WORK for it!!!

[CO2490pL]

It's high compared to the median, but "middle class" has always meant something significantly above average, at least in my experience.

Oh, and she just got an 18% raise 2 days ago, so that figure is out of date...

[Grapappytek]

42000 is also an old figure. IIRC the latest number is ~46k

But I have to ask you: would you consider a household of even two people bringing in 46k middle class? If both work, then you're talking blue collar type jobs. 23k / 2000 hours = 11.50 an hour

Better than McDonalds, but not even secretarial type salaries.