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Originally posted by Barnabas
I dont know, I think I recall reading about a new heaven a new earth, I guess that earth spins, I wouldnt like to live in the constantly dark part. Or maybe God produces the light, who knows Gliese 581 c? |
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Originally posted by Sn00py
![]() Is your heightened sense of enlightenment too high for me to comprehend, so like a father to a child, you laugh at my ignorance? I've been there too, and I am sick at myself for having been so stuck-up, so far up my own arse. Evolution is the most humbling; there is no greater proof of equality. ![]() |
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But it strikes me as a materialistic answer. If the body is resurected why do we need a soul, then? Ever hear of substance dualism?
The belief that the soul and body can be disconnected from each other, isn't really supportable. You can't have one without the other. It isn't that we love the material world, it is that we see the two as irreductably connected. This is why it doesn't make sense to say that Christianity hates the body and it's pleasures, rather it seeks the pleasures to be directed in a proper manner. |
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
We get new, perfect bodies (this mortal puts on immortality, or whatever Paul said). Brain states get reproduced or a modified version gets reproduced. ![]() We will praise God for eternity. Sounds like a barrel of fun. Are you sure that isn't hell? |
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Look at Revelation. There's no temple in the New Jerusalem, since the people glorify God automatically in all their actions. It's life, only better.
And it's quite possible that Jesus got the runs. It seems thoroughly irrelevant (and puerile) to dwell on it, but the gospels say He got tired, and of course there's the crucifixion, so why not physical illness as well? We're taught that Jesus took on all aspects of humanity except for sin. |
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I beleive that there is stuff about the physical world that we don't understand, obviously said I believe in God, but I don't think that there is a seperate spiritual 'world'. Definitely there has been no detection of it or the soul by science, which should have happened if some of te traditional views of them were true.
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JM, I've got a theory on that. I believe this creation was created for a purpose. The purpose seems to me as an...guest...of the creation to be the bush about which we here are beating, faith. If this universe had any single thing which revealed the fingerprints of the creator it would undo the purpose. The knowledge of the irrefutable fact would remove the need for faith. So..."there has been no detection of it or the soul by science" would merely be a prerequisite of the purpose. These spiritual things must remain undetectable, a matter of faith.
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
I beleive that there is stuff about the physical world that we don't understand, obviously said I believe in God, but I don't think that there is a seperate spiritual 'world'. Definitely there has been no detection of it or the soul by science, which should have happened if some of te traditional views of them were true. JM So how do you envision the afterlife? A sort of Night of the Living dead scenario, where all the dead people get out of their tombs? ![]() |
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