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Whenever you were happiest. The things you loved are there. The people you loved knew good people, and you you didn't have time before to meet them, but now you do.
You don't have time to miss anyone. Time on earth has no meaning. You land, stand up and look around, and the people you left behind are landing all around you. 50 earth years compared to eternity? Your great, great grandaughter is about to land right where you're standing, move over. |
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Whenever you were happiest. The things you loved are there. The people you loved knew good people, and you you didn't have time before to meet them, but now you do. You don't have time to miss anyone. Time on earth has no meaning. You land, stand up and look around, and the people you left behind are landing all around you. 50 earth years compared to eternity? Your great, great grandaughter is about to land right where you're standing, move over. Sounds a bit like Heathrow. |
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I had a thread on this awhile back, several years ago.
I know the closest thing I've ever had to heaven on earth, and that's what I hope will be there for me in heaven, only there is no time. You don't need to hurry or rush because you have all the time in the world. I would love to just live in that moment, and be able to make it last forever. |
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Personally I'm of the opinion that these special moments are special because of a rough formula (happiness or meaning)/time. The greater the value, the more special that moment is. If the moment went on for longer and longer it would lose its significance. For instance briefly meeting the Queen might be a grand experience, a very special moment. If on the other hand you lived in Buckingham Palace it isn't really all that special. That's because you are thinking of time in the sense that we have here today, where you are doing one thing for a long time.
I'm thinking of time where the distance between two seconds could last a thousand years. It's hard to explain. It's not like getting up every morning and going hiya queen, it's like you are experiencing everything for the first time, and you can control how long everything lasts. I don't know if that makes any sense at all. |
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Even if there's a place called Heaven, I'm not sure what part of me would go there. Humans can't see, hear, feel, touch, think or remember (who we are, who are our loved ones or what we like) without our bodies (our brains, in particular). Look at people who suffer from Alzheimer's. After a while, they don't know who they are and they can't recognize their loved ones anymore. The person they were just withers away, never to be seen again. Since my Self is intimately linked to my memory, and since memories are information stored in my brain, there's reason to believe that I, nostromo, will not survive my death. So even if some part of me goes to Heaven after my death, it will not be me and it will not be able to recognize my loved ones, it will not be able to see, hear, smell or touch anything. So why do you care whether that thing goes to Heaven or not? You won't survive yourself.
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
I do beleive in heaven. I don't believe in a seperate spiritual realm, rather that there is/will be a physical place. JM So what sort of body do you think people get to use? Do still born babies remain that way, while wheelchair-bound ancients get to keep that, and the 'lucky' ones who died in their peak of youth get to keep their looks for eternity? |
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You will be spiritually fulfilled. That will change everything. I've experienced this for a few minutes, describing it is beyond me. I think also that you will have no more basic needs.
That's for those who go to heaven. The bible also speaks of a new heaven and new earth and some religions have some of us, 144,000, going to heaven and more of us going to the new earth, but who knows? Whatever, it will be an adventure. I just hope I can be here long enough to support my wife to endure whatever hardships and share whatever joys lie ahead on this earth. I wonder if there will be challenges still. Maybe that's why there's a new earth. Things will be so different that it may be beyond our comprehension, like the size of the universe, a whole other order of existance. |
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What's so great about being happy?
I'm happy now, here on Earth. I don't want to do this for eternity. I know this is a hypothetical question, but I can't help but say that Heaven is a stupid thought to have, and spirits/souls. Only humans have it right? Or all living life? Including spiders and microorganisms? If only humans, how do we get them? Is it a few hours after birth? Some point inside the womb? When some boy-raping religious dude pours toxic water over me or the moment where the pulses in my brain accept Jesus as my saviour? Don't get me wrong, my mind is open, wide open, but some things are just stupid, like Heaven and Scientology. |
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