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Old 09-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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Default The R3EVOLution That Wasn't
Ron Paul supporters need to move on. But where? Here's a good jolt back to reality:

http://c4ss.org/content/12479

The R3VOLution That Wasn’t: A Note to Paul Supporters Posted by Thomas L. Knapp on Sep 5, 2012

“I told you so” isn’t a very gentle or polite opening for a conversation, so let’s just forget that I told you so both in 2008 and 2012 and treat those campaigns as phases you had to get through on your own, without distraction and paying no heed to naysayers, to get where you are now. The average Ron Paul supporter’s energy and dedication certainly commands my respect and, I think, the respect of most others whose path toward freedom didn’t take them down that road.
Hopefully, you can now see that Ron Paul is not going to restore the old American republic and lead you to liberty. Hopefully, you can see now that not only is it not going to happen, but that it never was going to happen.
The deck was thoroughly stacked. Against Paul, against you, against any threat to a status quo which has calcified over the last 120 years (starting with the introduction of “ballot access” laws to narrow the November choice to two, and the evolution of primaries and conventions toward a process that inevitably produces two look-alikes).
That status quo may break or crumble under external pressure, but it will never soften to internal re-shaping of the type that a Republican presidential campaign proposes.
Where to go from here? That is the question.
As a first step, I propose that you examine the two Paul presidential campaigns, with the benefit of hindsight and an eye toward identifying their essentials. You’ll find that much of what you held dear back then can be jettisoned — the partisan and political compromises bolted onto the campaign’s libertarian superstructure as armor or camouflage for the purpose of “working within the system.” Now that you’re about to abandon politics, you won’t need those things any more.
Auditing the Fed, resurrecting “states rights,” attempting to appeal to a base of social conservative voters who fear freedom so deeply that they’ll swallow anything the GOP establishment feeds them … those tactics did not serve you well where you were, and you won’t need them where you’re going.
Did I say you’re about to abandon politics? Yes, I did. Six years, $70 million, numerous lawless actions on the part of the Republican establishment and two heart-breaking failures to penetrate the GOP’s national convention, with a candidate eminently qualified for the presidency by what you thought were the relevant standards, should be enough to convince you that “working within the system” isn’t going to get the job done. Welcome to the real world.
The good news is that in that real world, you’re part of the majority. Most Americans either won’t or can’t participate in the state’s quadrennial “election” ritual. President Barack Obama took office with the express consent of less than one in four Americans. Nearly as many voted for someone else. More than twice as many voted for no one at all.
While it’s true that most of those non-voters are at best only marginally conscious of the significance of their abstention, neither are they fully invested in the system you sought to reform and now understand you must abolish. Even if they haven’t joined your army, they’re bona fide potential recruits, unlike the diehard Republican voters you’ve spent the last six years hectoring for support.
The first step, of course, is to become one of those non-voters.

The second step? Status esse delendam: The state must be destroyed.
If not now, when? If not you, who?
The R3VOLution is dead. Long live the revolution.
I think I've already made that transition. Changing this turd from within just isn't gonna work. Time to flush it.


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Old 09-06-2012, 07:21 PM   #2
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I think I've already made that transition. Changing this turd from within just isn't gonna work. Time to flush it.


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Amen, my brother.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:36 PM   #3
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Indeed. Flush the turd. See the first line of my sig. (IOW, ignore them, move on without them - giving them any consideration AT ALL is a colossal waste of your time)
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:11 PM   #4
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Indeed. Flush the turd. See the first line of my sig. (IOW, ignore them, move on without them - giving them any consideration AT ALL is a colossal waste of your time)
It took some time to get it through my head MR but I get it now and push this advice from your sig to all who will listen. "What do we do now DMAC?" You stop using their systems that's what. Stop using their money (numero uno). Stop participating in their elections (federal). Stop watching teevee. Stop buying their newspapers. Support your local businesses. Barter all that you can. Store food. Don't fill out any more forms. And so on.


"Don't believe them, don't fear them, don't ask anything of them." --Alexander Solzhenityn


If a tree falls in the forest... If we all refuse the authority of the fed gov, will they still have any power?
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:05 PM   #5
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Lots of brave talk, but no cigar.

Number one THEY won't let you go your own way, you talk like they believe in rules and will obey them. You are a rabble without organization, you can't shoot it out, unless suicide is your option.

The only way is the precinct way, take control of the country the Ron Paul way, precinct by precinct. Choose a party Republican or Democrat and make it your own.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:15 PM   #6
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The thing is rotten to the core; any trouble wasted on fixing this country is wasted. One's best option is to get one's affairs in order and jump ship.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:31 PM   #7
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The thing is rotten to the core; any trouble wasted on fixing this country is wasted. One's best option is to get one's affairs in order and jump ship.
It's possible to 'jump ship' without re-locating physically. I did it over 20 years ago. It's all a state of mind.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:32 PM   #8
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It's possible to 'jump ship' without re-locating physically. I did it over 20 years ago. It's all a state of mind.
What a pile of wishy washy bullshit.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #9
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Lots of brave talk, but no cigar.
^Ron Paul in a nutshell^

Its one thing to represent & something wholly different to capitalize with leadership.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #10
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What a pile of wishy washy bullshit.
Thanks for sharing your anosognosic perspective. lol
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:37 PM   #11
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Agreed. I have officially unregistered myself from the county voting rolls.

There is absolutely no fucking point to voting. The game has always been rigged, but now with electronic voting, it is beyond hope. And with the media's strangle hold on supporting the two party system, what's the fucking point?

A fuckin Kenyan is in the White House and I'm the insane one for seeing reality?
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:38 PM   #12
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Likewise; I never registered when I moved.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:40 PM   #13
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A fuckin Communist Kenyan is in the White House and I'm the insane one for seeing reality?
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:03 AM   #14
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Re: The R3EVOLution That Wasn't Imagine John Lennon voting for Obama. BARF!

Revolver, Let me tell you how it will be...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI9aLc5wr4

Look in my eyes, what do you see? The cult of personality.
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:28 AM   #15
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Imagine John Lennon voting for Obama. BARF!

Revolver,
So it was you!

The second man in a dark coat.

I imagine he would...
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:55 AM   #16
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I had a lot of hope for Ron Paul, but unfortunately, he just couldn't contend with TPTB. I'm going to vote Libertarian this cycle, just so my vote is counted. (IF it's counted, but I am positive my "Ron Paul" write-in wasn't counted last time.) And then, I think I will be removed from the rosters. Maybe someday my hope will be revived again (never say never), but for now, I feel beat.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:48 AM   #17
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I feel the same, K-os.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:49 AM   #18
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I had a lot of hope for Ron Paul, but unfortunately, he just couldn't contend with TPTB. I'm going to vote Libertarian this cycle, just so my vote is counted. (IF it's counted, but I am positive my "Ron Paul" write-in wasn't counted last time.) And then, I think I will be removed from the rosters. Maybe someday my hope will be revived again (never say never), but for now, I feel beat.
I contend Ron made a deal for Rand.
If positive the write-in wasn't counted, why waste your time?

Soooo Cheer up!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7sjdYhxddI
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:55 AM   #19
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I don't think the Ron Paul's campaigns were totally wasted efforts. We're not back at the same place as we were before.

Not only has it publicized some important messages and organized a bunch of people, but now we have concrete data of how the current government is totally illegitimate. It's not a question of the message being ignored by the masses anymore, as it was in the past, now it's a question of corruption and criminal activity.

Not sure where we go from here, but at least we have real data and lessons learned. This information must be used to form a new approach.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:04 AM   #20
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I had a lot of hope for Ron Paul, but unfortunately, he just couldn't contend with TPTB. I'm going to vote Libertarian this cycle, just so my vote is counted. (IF it's counted, but I am positive my "Ron Paul" write-in wasn't counted last time.) And then, I think I will be removed from the rosters. Maybe someday my hope will be revived again (never say never), but for now, I feel beat.
There was a simplest example of electronic voting fraud that I saw once where they simply reversed the votes.

So if you vote Obama things could work out for you.
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