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Old 05-31-2007, 12:12 PM   #1
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I was surprised about the US score.
But they get 5 points for stuff like deployments (UN and non-UN) and military capability/sophistication.
And for number of jailed population per 100,000 people
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:21 PM   #2
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levels of democracy and transparency, education and material wellbeing.
That's a rubbish methodology.

None of these are necessary for peace and stability.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:34 PM   #3
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It's also a bit strange that the more UN peacekeeping missions a country participates in, the less peaceful it is...
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:44 PM   #4
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Russia has less peace than China and Taiwan? The potential destabilization there is immense.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:11 PM   #5
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This is just a librally biased study to try and prove that Bush is an evil dictator that wants to take over the world.

First of all, how the Hell does Iran get by the US when its leader has said his mission is global chaos. Iran should be at the bottom of the list, not 97th.

Prison population should give a better score since that country is not a corupt criminal controled country and can control violence. Another thing, UN missions mean that a country is less peaceful, aren't UN missions stopping violence.

Kuken, Russia's score is 2.903
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:00 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Zevico

What exactly is a peace expert? I can suggest nothing else than a guy who survided a war.
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:11 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Will9

Prison population should give a better score since that country is not a corupt criminal controled country and can control violence.

Kuken, Russia's score is 2.903 It could also mean there is more violence in the country... Some countries have very little violence to begin with and therefore a low prison population.

Thanks, corrected!
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:58 PM   #8
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Originally posted by aneeshm


A lack of violence? The presence of physical security? An absence of crime? Don't you think all that will be better with democracy and transparency, education and material wellbeing?
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:21 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Kuken


Gendarmerie? Military.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:27 PM   #10
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What a COMPLETE WASTE!

Evil, evil Finland at #6 of 121?

Canada at #8 when its on the verge of going nuclear with Denmark over Hans0?*

And speaking of those warmongering Danes (#3), didn't they almost start the "Clash of Civilisations" not to long ago by drawing pics of Mohammad?

* Might be a bit of embelishment on my part here...
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:44 PM   #11
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so being peaceful means you can turn a blind eye to the autracities of the world, critique those who do not, and pat yourself on the back for it... nice...
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:49 PM   #12
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No idea
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:58 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Kuken


Well, the Gendarmerie is paramilitary kind of? The number fits too, 104,275 according to Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia too, this is the definition of Gendarmerie as a Military corps :

A gendarmerie (pronounced /ʒɒnˈdɑːmɜːriː/) is a military body charged with police duties among civilian populations. The members of such a body are called gendarmes.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:19 PM   #14
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Ratings like these are the reason I don't read The Economist anymore. The guys behind the ranking have essentually taken their 90s-originating prejudices about the different countries, added up some zomg BUSHITLER-demagogue in the mix, and fudged with the stats included enough to get the results they so much desired.

I wish this would be recognised as meaningless, but I presume this will be yet another Eurocentric penis-waving rating to be added to Wikipedia country comparisons.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:53 PM   #15
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Originally posted by Aivo˝so
The results seem very believable to me. I don't think anybody would be complaining if the US had a higher ranking... We wouldn't be complaining if the US had better ranking because the ranking is biased to give the US a worse ranking than we deserve. Part of it is based on defence spending. The country with the worlds largest GDP will have a high defense spending. Putting defense spending in just gives a larger country worse score. Size gives no conection to peacfulness. Large countries will also be involed in more UN peace-keeping missions. To see our reason to complain now?
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:46 PM   #16
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looks like BS for use by Europeans to pat themselves on the back.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:24 AM   #17
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Originally posted by Barnabas
Maybe the USA score is affected by the Iraq war, while Mexico has the advantage of not being at war with any country.

I think the USA has quite high homocide rates for a first world country, some cities very high like Washington. Homocides?
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:18 AM   #18
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We wouldn't be complaining if the US had better ranking because the ranking is biased to give the US a worse ranking than we deserve. Part of it is based on defence spending. The country with the worlds largest GDP will have a high defense spending. Putting defense spending in just gives a larger country worse score. Size gives no conection to peacfulness. Large countries will also be involed in more UN peace-keeping missions. To see our reason to complain now? What do you think would be a fair ranking for the US then? I don't think the US exactly can pride itself on being very peaceful. That said, I don't deny that the US faces geopolitical circumstances that differ from those of many other countries...
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:46 PM   #19
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Woohoo! We beat the Dutch!!!
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:08 PM   #20
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Being "peaceful' when you should fight evil is no virtue.
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