[Natashasuw]

First, I'd be all "WTF Pekka!"

Then i'd be, "Does this mean I'm going to get AIDS again?"

[Toscoropreark]

IS that what you said in the army?

Jon Miller

[Turbo-ip]

Japher, where have you been? In prison? I got a stimulating job... actually have down time right now, surprisingly.

[diplmixxxx]

Give up the mud!

Is that some sort of quaint Finnish term for pederasty?

[geraint.faughn]

Anyhow, I'd target the balls. Almost sig worthy, Spec

[citicroego]

I think that most people are in what ever position they are in because they secretly want to be in it, even if they don't know it.

[dremucha]

owing income tax means you made money... you wanted to make money, you just didn't know that you would be taxed on it

[Duseshoug]

I'm not big on dialectics, I would probably side with the arguments, at least for social consequences. As I said in another thread "you become the company you keep". I believe that people who find themselves in particular social situations have found themself their because of personal choices that they did not know would impact that aspect of their life.

If I follow a social dialectic train of thought all I come up with is the self loathing whinning that I hear every day; how nothing is never anyone's fault. That, is never the case. An individuals decision for moral direction and dedication to a certain level of stubborn pursuit defines the path they have set for themselves.

Granted, you don't get to pick the stream you are on, or the rapids you will forge. However, you get to stock your own boat and determine what is most important to you.

You wish yourself where you want to be by deciding who it is you are. Where you end up will be determined by your ignorance, or lack thereof.

[VarenHokalos]

What I'm getting at is the fact that sometimes you might make loads of decisions without knowing what you're doing because you're not aware of certain things, not because you secretly want the outcome. Making decisions without knowing what you're doing does lead to what you secretly want; instant gratification. It's only when people hold other wants or desires over this that they actually get something else; what they deserve.

You may argue that they may not be graditude in what they find by making ignorant decisions, I would argue the opposite, and probably isn't even a point to merit debate.

The real argument comes from you hating this one-sided logic that ignores (pays no respect to) other's perceptions or reactions. I'm not going to bother arguing whether it is one-side, because I can also agree with this labeling. However, I think ignoring ones perceptions or reactions in lieu of paying attention to a defining virtue or moral code (in a purely social structure) as a guide would benefit greater than would be to please the present company. It is when people do this that they become more than celebrities, and head towards greatness.

Is that Machiavellian? I don't know, but then I'm only halfway through my lecture series on The History of Western Thought (on tape)... very interesting though.

Ignorance is big in most people because we're not born with a diploma in cognitive sciences. I've had long arguments with friends about logic. I've always come to the conclusion that Logic is merely a motivation that helps us decided what to do when we are ignorant.

My friends can disagree at length to argue that it is only logic if the motivation leads you down the Right path.

[MattJargin]

I'd give it up, pretend to be his *****, then find out where he lives, then shoot him twice in the testicles, once in each kneecap, blowtorches for the arms and face, scalping, and finally one shot in the gut.

[XarokLasa]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Dis would be a prison ***** let's be honest here. I am 5 foor 8, and I weigh 150 pounds. I know my limitations.

I have taken special precautions to avoid going to prison. Yep, you guessed it. I'm a ***** of a judge. . Actually, I follow all the laws, that has kept me out of prison thus far.

[EjPWyPm4]

What does this have to do with a 7' crazy man thats wants to pound your ass in a locked room?

Spec.

[DoctorTDent]

Only if they don't have a clue how to defend against it.

[Storwaytozy]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
Even people who have clues leave themselves open in other ways, especially to arm bars. Not if they are the smartest person here.

[Wdlglivi]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
Even people who have clues leave themselves open in other ways, especially to arm bars. Eh. Admittedly most people are really awful at grappling, but even a bit of training goes a long way.

[Nopayof]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Not if they are the smartest person here. Given your utter lack of experience with being in that situation I find your comment facetious.

[Emedgella]

Well, I go to grappling because neither situation says the other person has a weapon.

[pBiRXp8u]

What I'm saying is that with any experience at all strength is going to play a large part in determining who gets the upper hand in a grappling match.

When I wrestled in high school the coach would put me up against the biggest new recruit during the first practice. In grade 10 I was in the 136 lb category ( ) and easily thrashed the 220 lb dude I was up against. A couple of months later I didn't have a chance against the same guy. He had the instinct to sprawl quickly, knew not to give up an arm or his head, etc. I was still a better wrestler than him, but he could simply overpower me from then on.

Skill can still play a big part when two people are closely matched in strength, but if I was up against somebody who was 6'6 and 250 lbs of muscle and a basic combat sense then I'd be done. It wouldn't even be close.

[Heessduernbub]

What are you guys talking about.. fantasyland prison? When bubba hits you in the head with a pipe, the arm bars go out of hte window. Besides, if you'd ever try an arm bar in a prison, you'd prolly be molested twice as hard.

I think you guys are setting up unrealistic scenarios, because you want to be raped. Now.. break that window!