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I read an article the other day that was amusing. They claim that since the next election will be first one in a long time where an incumbant president isn't involved that the field of candidates is considerably larger than normal. As a result, high level campaign workers and stratigists are in high demand and profiting from the increased demand.
SO yes, anyone entering the race late will have problems finding highly qualified campaign staffers. And I doubt Gore could ever appear as "FRESH" ![]() |
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
It's an interesting question. Gore would probably be better off waiting until a later election (when all memory of his disastrous 2000 campaign is forgotten), but god knows how much longer this global warming hysteria will last. I'd say that after the water's around knee level the hysteria will turn to sheer panic. |
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Originally posted by Victor Galis
You know, he might be waiting to see how the other candidates do. If one of the front-runners manages to implode, it might be a good time to step in and whatnot. Otherwise, this race is really very competitive already. I think so too. Gore is probably not sure himself yet whether he'll run or not. If a good opportunity comes, like Victor says, I'd bet he steps in. |
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Gore's not going to have a chance to jump in later. Hillary is unbeatable...
What many conservatives regard as the nightmare scenario -- President Hillary Rodham Clinton -- is increasingly seen by veteran Republican politicians and strategists as a virtual inevitability. In GOP circles, the Democratic front-runner is seen as so strong, and the political climate for Republicans so hostile, that many influential voices -- including current and former lawmakers, and veterans of President Bush's campaigns -- have grown despairing. These partisans describe a political equivalent of the stages of grief, starting with denial, then resentment and ending with acceptance. For now, these Republicans say the party needs good luck, including a change of fortune in Iraq, and a revival of organization and leadership in the conservative movement to avert another Clinton presidency. "If the conservative movement and Republicans don't understand how massive the Clinton coalition is, she will be the next president," former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said in an interview last week, after giving a private talk to GOP lawmakers. Clinton will win, he added, "if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us." http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2654.html Hillary ![]() |
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Hillary, like shrub jr, strikes me as everything that is wrong with American politics today. The sense of entitlement where offices are passed around from father to son or from husband to wife, the arrogant inside the beltway set who run things because they've rigged the system in their favor, the endless flip-flopping and double speak where they say one thing then do the opposite, and the fact that once these ticks worm their way in they're practically there for life.
I wish they'd have all the Washington insiders gather together for one giant photograph and then have a metor crash and kill them all. That would do wonders for our country. |
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That would be sweet. It isn't like I think Gore is the best guy in the world but he seems to be the only one who could possibly beat Hillary. A Gore-Obama ticket could pick up the centrists and the liberals while avoiding the massive negatives Hillary brings to the table. An actual outsider would be better but no outsider will be able to beat Hillary now that she has more money then god.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
It's nearly too late for him to get in. ![]() In America, one has to start full-time campaigning over a year before the elections? Reality check: altough the media might be creating the impression that there's a constant horse-race going on, the next primary is 10 months away. Gore or any other guy running for office in Nov. 2008 is not losing any votes by not yet entering, in fact I think the opposite is true: If I were a primary voter, I'd be pissed off at the ambitious Senators wasting their time pandering voters in IA and NH instead of doing their jobs when the primaries arrive. Originally posted by rah And I doubt Gore could ever appear as "FRESH" ![]() |
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Originally posted by VJ
In America, one has to start full-time campaigning over a year before the elections? Reality check: Given the wide open field, the need to lock down the best staff, donors, etc, yes it is nearing too late to enter the race if you don't already have your infrastructure up and running. |
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Given the wide open field, the need to lock down the best staff, donors, etc, yes it is nearing too late to enter the race if you don't already have your infrastructure up and running. Don't worry, I did read all of your posts in the 1st page.
I thought it'd be obvious that one can hire staff to do nothing before formally announcing anything. If he decides not to run, administrative campaign workers can always start working for the current frontrunners. Also note that Democratic candidates don't have a Rove they must fight for. I think you're overestimating the differences between the quality of professional campaign managers. |
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I was the one complaining about Senators of states with >1M voters having to be millionares themselves, in another OTF thread few days ago.
![]() You think I'm just some naïve kid who thinks a guy simply has to have dreams big enough and ideas good enough in order to win? Hell, Gore doesn't have either of those atm, so then he'd definitely lose. I do know that winning the primaries in presidential race absolutely demands tens of millions, and probably requires >$100M. I also know that he doesn't have to have that yet and that most of the campaign donations start coming when the campaign is already rolling and candidates have already received visible indication of support from voters -- rich invididuals and large corporations wishing good relations with POTUS don't want to start wasting millions on somebody who has no guarantees of even winning the primaries. What, you think rich donors are some sort of pawns who need X amount of attention until they're permanently converted years before the actual campaign? RL isn't a computer game: donors change their minds about who's the best investment. "Infrastructure" is a nice word when one needs to emphatize the amount of time needed to build it, but what do you really mean with it in this context? I consider that it means people administering volunteer workers at the grassroots level around the nation, which organised campaigns need. I think Gore has enough experience of how to gather such already. His run in 2000 was ultra-professional in it's organisation, turning many people off in it's predictability and robotic nature. |
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I recall reading a recent article which said it takes arond $500 million to run a successful campaign for the Presidency. Thus the reason they'll all whore themselves to every special interest group in town. I'm sure all the wannabe-carbon traders are lining Gore's pockets then.. |
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