[broksaksaak]

[replrobin]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Good thing nobody got hurt. Indeed.

Now if only somebody could get Hezbollah to stop planting bombs along the border.

[O25YtQnn]

Yay, nobody died. This time.

-Arrian

[wbeachcomber]

Unfortunately, no.

-Arrian

[Talicoabilk]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Am I the only one who hopes for an inescapable escalation of violence that destroys Israel and everything around it? Your probably the only one to suggest that merely as a way of getting attention.

[Esmeralfaf]

Originally posted by LordShiva


I wonder if lotm will bite on this one, too Nah, sometimes a troll can be spun in order to assert a useful point - its worth appearing humorless sometimes to get a point in.

Lorizaels doesnt work for that, for reasons that are apparent.

[BalaGire]

The israel conflict is like the stock market, sometimes up, sometimes down, but always there

[Olympicdreams]

Originally posted by Lorizael
I have a semi-serious point. These constant skirmishes and border conflicts and raids, punctuated by the occasional full-blown war, are a sign that the area is simply not ready for peace. It is, in fact, nowhere close to peace, nor is it moving in the direction of peace.

Things aren't better when only a few people are dying per day. Things aren't even better when no one happens to get hurt in the latest stupid gunfight.

Something major needs to happen in the area before any kind of lasting peace can be achieved. The destruction of every political body in the Middle East - while it would not bring about peace, not at all - would be a nice start to something new. when i was last in Israel, you could walk around Tel Aviv at night more assured of safety than you could walk around Chicago or New York. Do you suggest destroying Chicago and New York?

[Ruiceara]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Yes, I do, because the United States is surrounded by enemies on all sides, frequently wars with Canada, and its occupuation of Mexico is so harsh that poor Mexicans secretly come into America and blow themselves up in an act of defiant terrorism. Israel is at peace with Egypt and Jordan, and there have been few successful suicide bombings in the last year. And there werent many suicide bombings before 2001 - they didnt start because of the harshness of the occupation, but because of disappointment with the peace proposal that would have ended the occupation.


If things were as desperate as you seem to think, Israelis would flee in droves. Instead Jews from France are moving there, apparently because they fell safer there, among other reasons. Would you suggest destroying Paris?

[greekbeast]

Originally posted by Heresson


They wanted to clear bombs to pave the way for the next invasion on Lebanon No it was more humanitarian than that. It was an attempt by doves in Israel to allow freer access into Israel for purposes of Hezb kidnapping IDF soldiers without fear of blowing themselves up in the process.

[Redys]

anyways, the security fence != international border.
Israel tried not to cross the border and claims it didn't.

The fence often crosses several dozen yards into Israeli soil. Israel has a right to cross that.

Especially to stop provocations by Hezbullah.

Planting roadside bombs on the border is a first step in preparing for another kidnapping.

[c-cialis]

Some of this wailing and gnashing of teeth reminds me of the oft-heard 'solution' to the intractible problems of N. Ireland - "can't we cut it loose and float it off into the Atlantic? Hopefully it will sink".

[isogeople]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Right about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict or right about covering them in asphalt? Right about the Is/Pal conflict.

[TZids16I]

Jpost


"Lebanon reneged Friday on its plan to file a complaint against Israel to the United Nations Security Council over Wednesday's flare-up on the northern border, after UNIFIL accepted Israel's version of events.

IDF tanks shelled a Lebanese army position after the Israeli troops came under fire during an operation to clear mines on the Israeli side of the border two days after five explosive devices were discovered in the area.


Lebanon's Interior Minister Ahmad Fatfat told Al Jazeera that "for the moment there is no need to file a complaint. The main message we conveyed to Israel was that we will not sit down and shake hands over violations of our sovereignty."

UNIFIL accepted Israel's version of the episode after inspecting the area and came to the conclusion that an Israeli bulldozer did not cross the Blue Line, the border drawn by the United Nations after Israel's withdrawal from south Lebanon in 2000.

Slovakia's UN Ambassador Peter Burian, the current council president, said Undersecretary-General for Peacekeeping Jean-Marie Guehenno told members at a closed briefing Thursday that "there was no violation of the Blue Line." "

[rozneesitcn]

Lebanon seizes Hezbollah weapons

The Lebanese militant group Hezbollah has said a lorry intercepted by the authorities was transporting weapons for its fighters.

Hezbollah has demanded the return of the lorry and the arms.
....

In a statement, Hezbollah called on the government to respect a policy statement adopted two years ago that describes the group as a resistance movement against Israeli occupation.

But under UN resolution 1701, which ended the war between Hezbollah and Israel last summer, the militant group is banned from re-arming.

The resolution has the backing of the Lebanese government.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6345761.stm