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thats awesome, but where is the part that tells his followers to kill?

[samanthalueus]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


I love that logic. Certain atheists ran repressive societies, so their societies are much like those based on religion. I really don't think that atheistic societies are perfect, and some that have existed have been pretty horirfic.

I could just as easily say that nice athiestic liberal and social democracies are just like those based on religion, since the essence of religion is love and non-violence. Those religious groups that murder are basically atheist, since they ignore G-ds word, despite their professions of belief and active ritual lives. Ehrr, no. They actually think that they do what their god demands of a true beliver. It doesn't matter that other of the same belief says that they doesn't follow the true way, because in their mind, they do. Actually, they often say that the peacefull acolytes betray their god.

How about just accept that this is human behavior and is orthogonal to religion? You are partially right, but religion is a part of the equation and one wich has a tendency to make it worse.

[orerviche]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Ehrr, no. They actually think that they do what their god demands of a true beliver. It doesn't matter that other of the same belief says that they doesn't follow the true way, because in their mind, they do. Actually, they often say that the peacefull acolytes betray their god. Well yes, thats true, literally, they beleive in God. But then literally the Stalinists, for ex, dont. So if you can say that Stalinist society is "like" religious society cause it shares some attributes with it, I can say that oppressive religious society is actually "like" atheist society in that it shares some attributes with it.