[xtc2d6u8]

Originally posted by Winston
I think there's an undercurrent of bigotry in assuming that whites asking to be seated separtely must be viewed with more suspicion than blacks doing the same thing. It's not that it has to be, it's that our natural reaction is to do so given the historical and cultural context.

[bikersfan]

Originally posted by Winston
You lose.

No, he doesn't. You just seem congenitally incapable of understanding a very disgusting part of our history that we still have yet to come to terms with. We're still muddling through this, trying to figure out how to overcome it, and the legacy of it. Our emotions are still raw, and some people are hurt worse than others. As empathetic beings we more horrified by greater harm than lesser harm. To wit, Black people are more injured emotionally by whites being racist towards them than vice versa. It's the difference between punching someone and punching them on a broken arm. The action is the same in both cases, but the effect is clearly more harmful in the latter.

As far as what I was or was not snidely insinuating, I didn't engage in any deliberate snideness until the previous paragraph. However, when you display such a callous disregard of our history and pain, its hard to keep emotions in check.

[Andrew1978]

Originally posted by Winston
No, I think chegitz guevara is just a generally unpleasant person when he's being opposed.

No, it's just personal between me and you. You write as though you hold me in contempt and I'm more than happy to return the opinion.

[Oberjej]

all in all the confederate flag is a part of souther US history and really has nothing to do with racism. It is the ignorant groups that adopt these things that associate things liek this with their groups that practice some of these things. Doesnt make it true!

[Laqswrnm]

maybe but it is still the truth. racism is all in the eyes of the racisnt NO? Most folks here with the conferderate flag believe its all against black folks which has been mentioned here. Slavery i think is a bit different then todays racism.

[sttrqiss]

was founded on the premise that enslavement of blacks was a moral good. It was one of many tenants, but I suppose that is what the US was founded on to. All that other stuff was also just meaningless semantics.

I am so glad Tass and Che as mind readers and can instantly tell the internal motivations of millions of people on a whim. Thanks for telling me what I was thinking guys, as I guess you are a better judge than me!

And Che, Tass, Mr Fun automatically lose for bringing up Nazis, even if it was in a completely inappropriate comparison.

[perpelverw]

No slaves anywhere now. What will be your supposition for the next time?

[LkEHaduy]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Indeed Racism has been solved! Hooray!
Now excuse me while I return to my gated community. gated communities are racist?

It's racist just to make that claim.

[Pashtet]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
The difference is that my position is backed up by logic and reason no, it's backed up by opinions

analyze your own posts properly

[kranskregyan]

Race is still, unfortunately, a big deal at my church (Which is 99.X% african american). But I understand.. as the mean age is over 50. They experienced things that I read about in history books.

It is also, much more unfortunately, a big deal to some of my freinds.. who are (to varying degrees) racist. That being true, however, the younger generation is a lot less racist than the older.

Jon Miller

[PerfectCreditForYou]

As for the confederate flag (to actually get back on topic), I think it's silly to compare it to the swastica. Sure the Ku Klux Klan used it, but they never killed 6 million people. The degree of severity is just much less with a confederate flag. I'm not saying people have never done bad things while displaying the flag, but the severity is much less.

Is it racism? Indirectly, I believe it is. But I think most people who display it don't really know what it means. They only do it because other people do it. They aren't necessarily racist. People are sheep. They only do what other people are doing. It would be silly to say there is abolutely no racist connotations behind the flag in every situtation, but displaying the flag is not the same as carrying a sign saying: "I'm a racist".

That said, I think the flag is silly, and I don't know why people like it. The hilarious thing is these people claim to be patriots. You are either with us or against us (I'm kidding here, but I'm using their logic). You either support the U.S., or you don't. Don't go supporting some bullshit goverment that lasted less than 4 years.

edit: yes the above post seems contradictory, perhaps I'm not explaining myself fully here. Sometimes I have trouble expressiong thoughts into words. But every situation is different. You just can't go around calling every redneck displaying a confederate flag a racist. Some people are just too stupid to realize what message they are conveying by flying the flag.

[Janarealiti]

Patroklos and Slowwy -- if the Confederate flag's history has nothing to do with racism then why don't Southern blacks show the same pride in their region by proudly displaying the Confederate flag?

And I found it humorous that Kuci has declared that racism no longer exists among his generation in the South.

[sandyphoebetvmaa]

"And I found it humorous that Kuci has declared that racism no longer exists among his generation in the South."

Burlington doesn't count as South.

[Dodoerabe]

Originally posted by Dis


gated communities are racist?

It's racist just to make that claim. Indeed. Seperate but equal The blacks can have the run-down cities we abandoned because they started to protest being second class citizens. We'll just monopolize the economic resources and live in prosperity

that's just stupid

Obviously they wouldn't be flying it in support of Nazism, they'd be flying it to show their cultural identity.